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  KDE 2.2.1/3.0 Release Schedules Updated/Posted
KDE Official News Posted by Dre on Saturday 08/Sep/2001, @23:18
from the release-me-now dept.
Waldo Bastian, the KDE 2.x release coordinator, has announced that KDE 2.2.1 was packaged as a tarball yesterday and will be officially released on September 17, 2001. Those of you expecting the release this Monday will be happy to know that the extra week was used to squash bugs. At about the same time, Dirk Mueller, the new KDE 3.x release coordinator (thanks, Dirk!), posted the projected KDE 3.0 release schedule. The short and sweet: first beta on December 3, 2001, first release candidate on January 7, 2002, and KDE 3.0 on February 25, 2002. Unlike the KDE 1 to KDE 2 change, this one should be much smoother: Qt has changed far less, and very few (if any) core applications will be completely rewritten, as many were for KDE 2.


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Fast pace
by Simon Perreault on Saturday 08/Sep/2001, @23:54
I think I'm in love with this quick one-release-a-month way of doing things.

Keep up the good work!!!
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KDE.com
by reihal on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @02:08
Is Dre colour-blind? Or am I?
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New features in KDE 3
by Gabriel on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @02:09
¿Where can I suggest new features for KDE 3? I have read the announce and it seems not have many changes ...
¿What about a little redesign of the user interface (kpanel, i.e.), like XP (XP is beautiful, and MacOS X is more beautiful ...)
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missing features of 3.0
by ElveOfLight on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @03:08
I think a lot of users will be surprised reading that there is no plant to make a unique theme handler, merging things like window decoration / theme / style into one single menu point under kcontrol, and even more important, integrate a theme creator which enables the user to simply choose style / wallpaper / colours etc, save everything into 1 file, and upload it to the one-day-probably-working-and-updated-again-kde.themes.org.
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2.2-2.2.1.patch
by jamal on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @03:49
i really really hope will see something like that on kde ftp....
will it come ??
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Clipboards support
by Spark on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @06:47
I have just one question: Will Qt3 fix the clipboard?
Atm it is that mouse selections always overwrite my clipboard.
I think it's much neater to store the "Strg+C, Strg+V" clipboard in a different X-Clipboard than the the "Mouse selection, MMB" clipboard.
AFAIK Qt3 WILL handle it this way (like Gtk does already), but I want to be sure cause it is REALLY hard for me to work without it. :) And will it be compatible to the Gtk clipboards?
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How about updating help and context sensitive help
by Asif Ali Rizwaan on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @07:56
Right from KDE 2.0, the Help seems to be ages old and not quite helpful. And the "What's This?" context sensitive help is just missing in most of the KDE applications. Can we expect updated help in KDE 3.0?
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Some K-apps needs facelifts in KDE 3.0
by Asif Ali Rizwaan on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @08:04
I thank KDE team for including Kinstaller in KDE 3.0. I would love to see improvements in Kicker, KOffice, and KWin. And overall redesign of KControl modules, the KStyle module going out of my desktop (screen area) not just at 800x600 but also at 1024x768 resolution.
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Wishlist
by lildawg on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @09:54
I saw this on kde-devel a few weeks ago, anyone care to comment on any of them?

Hi, after not using kde since 1.1, I've switched back
to kde with 2.2. It is great! It is 95% of what I want
my desktop to act/feel/look like. However, there are a
few features that I mess from other kde-like software,
wether it be Windows, GNOME, or MacOS. So, here is
what I'd look foward to seeing in kde 3.0 (or even kde
2.2.1, but I guess that is only a bug fix release).
Keep in mind that I am not a programmer, so I don't
know what is viable or not.


1. drag and drop in more things that now, for example,
it would be neat to drag and drop text from konqueror
to kword, or maybe perhaps
dragging a paragraph from konqueror and having it
styled in kword, but would appear as simple text in
something like kwrite.

2. downloads windows have checkbox to close when done,
and a button to show the directory in which it is
downloading (very useful feature from internet
explorer).

3. with plugins enabled in konqueror, and when a
plugin for a type is not found, only popup a window
once for it.. for example if you do not have flash
installed, and you goto a flash website, you may see 5
or 6 windows popup trying to show you that the plugin
is not installed. annoying. maybe there should be
option for turning off these altogether.

4. <nobr> support in khtml.. this is probably the most
widely used non-standard tag.. it still prevents soem
pages from being rendered
correctly.

5. in konqueror, add an action that represents the
functionality of the find window, this could be placed
in a toolbar and quick searchign of webpages could be
done without the need of opening a find window
everytime. opera has something like this afaik.

6. fix the user style sheet option in konqueror, I
could not get this to work with stylesheets that work
in both IE and opera. This is really a must for people
with special accessibility needs.

7. maybe some kind of mouse trails for the mouse
arrow? I'm not sure if kde could do this, but judging
>from some of the funky animations
KDE does with the mouse pointer, maybe it is. I hope
:)

8. Fix applets when the panel is vertical. some
applets, such as the Application Launcher, have a
habit of dissapearing when the applet is
vertical. Other applets, such as the clock sometimes
do not display well with less space available (and oth
er times it works perfectly).

9. Kde app wide alpha channel blending (if that's
possible).

10. Make selecting text in khtml faster. It is
noticbly more sluggish compared to Mozilla. rendering
it self is pretty fast.

11. Make the kmenu editable without need for any otehr
apps. For example, you could drag "Graphics" under
"Internet" to make it go under Internet. Or maybe you
could hold down middle mouse button for a
few seconds, and the text of a name could be editable.

12. kmail imap support is very cool, but it is really
unstable/doesn't work properly with large IMAP
folders. This needs to be changed

13. in konqueror's file browsing mode, if double click
is enabled to open up folders, if a icon is selected,
and the mouse pointer is on the label of the icon for
a few seconds, it should go into rename mode (like in
macos).

14. have more meaningful names in the kmenu. I really
like names like "konqueror- web browser". that shows
to the user that whenever they
see that icon, it is konqueror the web browser.
However, if the user sees something like "kit", they
don't know what it is without chosing
it. Maybe it should be renamed "kit - AOL Internet
Messanger client" or more simply, "AOL Internet
Messanger Client". Maybe theer should be
a policy for this.

15. a "reboot" command in kmenu, or maybe logout has a
reboot checkbox

16. Maybe have a "send bug report" button in the crash
dialog

16. show kde version in splash screen

17. tooltips in stuff in kmenu

18. in the pager applet, have a row and columns
option, for example, the user, if he/she has 4
desktops, might want to have the desktops arranged
horiztonally

19. a "floating" type of panel should be introduced
that can be put anywhere in the desktop

20. in panels in kicker which don't take 100% of an
edge, they should allow panel extentions to use up
part of the rest space. for example, i could have the
main kicker panel starting from te northwest corner
down, and a kasbar starting from southwest corner up.

21. Have a "drawer" button in the kicker, a drawer
slides out, and can hold applets, other application
buttons, other drawers, or stuff liek
more kmenus

22. make button positions in kwin-clients modifibable
like in kde 1.1

23. in kde apps, Make menubar movable, like toolbars

24. in kde apps, add the ability for menubars and
toolbars to appear in new windows (like a palette). I
saw this in the qt3 designer app,
so I think qt3 has this ability.

25. in konsole, add ability to change cursor color,
also, when you open up konsole, the tab name is
"konsole", but when you click on new
it is "shell". imho, it should start with shell, and
not konsole.

26. ability of kicker to "swallow" other apps, like
swallowing gkrellm/ksim into a vertical panel

apps that I'd like to see kde3 equivs of (that are not
any kde2 equivs):
1. lyx (there was klyx for kde 1.1? what happened to
that?)
2. ethereal
3. gimp (well, I don't like krayon's interface that
much, if krayon's feature set was expanded a bit, and
it's interface was tweaked for some kind of MDI
setting, I'd prefer it over GIMP any day. (GIMP's
Interface isn't that great either.. I guess I am
looking for Photoshop for X11 :))
4. xmms/winamp - noatun is a great MS media player
replacement, but it *feels* too heavy for a mp3/ogg
player. but maybe that's just me.
5. aviplay or mplayer (aviplay would be easy to port
to kde since its in qt.)
6. xmame
7. zsnes/snes9x- there are several gtk/gnome
frontends, but no kde ones afaik
8. xchat - well, kvirc and ksirc are great... but I
don't like kvirc's interface much, and xchat is a bit
more customizable than ksirc.. so what I'm trying to
say is that ksric would be great if more
customizablity wwere added.
9. nethack/gnomehack
10. xqf (a online game finder for gtk)
11. adaptec directcd- packet burning app for windows..
it'd be prolly easily done through konqueror. just
select a group of files/dirs, drag to a special cd
burner icon, and then after you are done, right click
on the special icon and chose "burn".
12. xine or oms-gtk - somethign th at can play dvds
13. a wysiwyg html editor-- something like mozilla's
composer mode
14. gcolorsel/xcolorsel
15. xmag
16. an app like gtk-theme-switch to switch kde or qt
widget themes on the fly without kcontrol


Keep in mind that that these are just my wishlist, you
guys are doing a great job already. just putting in my
2cents. And sorry, for any speling, grammer. and other
dumb errors, I'm tired. :)
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Konq 2.2.1 Fantastic!!!
by Ben on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @11:34
I just pulled down KDE 2.2.1 (I couldn't find the tar files so I grabbed the CVS) and I just wanted to say that Konqueror seems to render pages much faster, and an annoying bug that made my domain take _forever_ to load in 2.2 has been fixed!

It was the weirdest thing.. every version of Konqi prior to 2.2 loaded my site super-fast, but with 2.2 it would just sit there for about 30 seconds before loading. The really odd part was that when I put the site on my local machine and loaded it it was the normal speed.. It was going out to my domain and back that took the time.. I logged a bug about it, but never got a reply.. well, it's been fixed!


Thanks a lot Konqi team, that was really bothering me!

In fact, for whoever is reading this, I'd just like to mention that at least on my machine) Konqi's rendering seems a lot faster. I'd like to know what they did to speed things up.. Anyway, I've only been running 2.2.1 for a few minutes yet, but I haven't seen any bad things happen yet, so I'm happy!

Cheers,

Ben
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This is only interesting if KNote and KBabel speed
by Isak Lyberth on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @11:54
On ppc machines KNote and KBabel are incredible slow. I mean, aspestus dust fall faster than letters apear on the screen after typing.
In periods i can type compleat sentenses before things starts to happen on the screen.

Regards
Isak
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Will Red Hat RPMs be all messed up again?
by Eduardo Sanchez on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @12:46
Last August I've downloaded the Red Hat "7.x" packages that broke my RPM system and introduced several bugs to my system, **eventually leading to a system-wide crash with data loss**. The "7.x" label is DECEPTIVE since the RPMs were built on a beta system and there WAS ABSOLUTELY NO INDICATION of this fact.

I understand that those problems were because Red Hat chose to build the RPMs against a beta setup (RawHide). This time, Red Hat folks, please build a STABLE release against a STABLE distro.

Thanks, Eduardo
(registered RH user: sombragris)
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CodeWeavers Crossover Plugin + Quicktime
by Kurt on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @13:27
I hope that 2.2.1 addresses the problems that i have with embedding the Quicktime plugin using the nsplugin viewer in konqueror.I have not been able to use CW crossover plugin with anything but Netscape :-( .
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Wishlist: GNOME applets in KDE panel
by Vladimir on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @13:31
It would be cool to be able to add GNOME applets into the KDE panel. It seems that GNOME has many more applets than KDE that I find useful like Weather applet, Gaim applet etc. Any news if that is doable ?
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$0.02 wishlist for KDE 2.x/3.x
by hackorama on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @14:38
These are a few suggestions from a very happy KDE user,
who would like to see KDE getting even better with each release.

1. A graphical front end to XF86Config file. which will restart X
with the new settings and will retract to the old config if
the new settings fail or is not OK.

2. Improved nsplugin support for Konqueror, expecially
if it could work with the codeweaver crossover plugins.

3. Konqueror font size +/- option does not apply to all
frames in a page. I dont know if its intentional, if so please
provide an option for font size changes to apply to all frames
in the page.

4. Provide multiple sets of icon themes, which might suit the taste
of diffrent users. ( kde classic, kde modern, kde gnomish , kde xp
kde mac-style etc )

5. Consolidate kmail korganiser and other k pim apps under one suit
may be named K Lookout

6. Take the most popular QT/KDE CD burning software ( koncd ? ) and
adopt it as the default KDE cd burner with a default easy inerface,
with an option to switch to expert mode.
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Other Apps
by frido on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @15:21
Hmm since kmail is in kdenetwork, will I have to wait untill januari if there's a new feature/better imap support ?
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My Wishlist
by c4 on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @18:34
Also putting my 2cents.
My changes would be more in konqueror or khtml


1. tabbed browsing option
2. khtml should not "blank" the page when going into a new page. it "seems" bit slower when going in a new page after you click on a link than mozilla. I noticed that mozilla shows the page after it has loaded at least the first screenful, and it does NOT blank the page to the bgcolor before displaying anything.
3. another reason I think that khtml selections are slow are because it applies selection color based upon the color of the selected text. Mozilla does not do this (and has a default blue selection color, depending on the theme).
4. It'd be REALLY nice to drag text from konqueror, and not just links
5. It'd be really really nice to drag images from konqueror
6. Make he tab key lets you navigate around things in konqueror.
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KMail Wish List
by Brian Murphy on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @20:18
The two things I would like to see added to Kmail.

1. That you maintain the tool bar when you open a message to full screen. This is the view I prefer for reading messages. Then I have to close it to read the next message. I would prefer to have the previous/next arrows.

2. I frequently get messages sent as attachments, sometimes 4 or 5 deep. I would like to be able to display the attachments as one big message ( like Hotmail and Eudora).

Also as a low priority wish, I would like to see KPacman ported to KDE 2.x & 3.x. and added to the games. I really like this game, but can only use it with KDE 1.1.2.

I would like to say thanks to all the KDE developers for all their hard work. You've produced a great product that just keeps getting better.

Brian
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My Only Wish..
by MegaBite on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @20:34
Hey, I'd like to see all kwin themes have the ability to control button positions/hiding buttons.

And props to all KDE developers. I'm looking forward to KDE 3 :).
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own wish
by Locke on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @23:54
I think that KDE Menu is too crowded. How about moving most of the top level subcategories to a "Program" subcategory. It'd appear a LOT less crowded then. Right now, I think that there is a plethora of items in the Kmenu, which sucks for usability and low resolutions. Fix it :p.

I also look forward to KDE 3.0.
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another one
by Monor on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @00:57
Tooltips should be displayed in the default monospaced font. Not proportional.
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kmail: easy to use spam to trash
by gunnar on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @02:22
hi,

kde2 is great!!!
a. would be good to have a rightclick menu to add the sender to a spam list.
b. to set a rule how to handle it (-> move to trash)
c. --> so the filter list will be clearer because there is an extra spamlist

thanx to all developers
-gunnar
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just a wish!
by daniel on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @04:17
Must say that KDE has improved enourmosly since I first tried it in 1996. But there is one thing that has irritated me ever since..

Why must the "K" menu look and work like "Start" in windows, it even works worse and is uglier? The "Start" menu has never worked very well in windows either from a usability point of view... it just confuses the user and makes it hard to find an application. As everybody now, home users has tons of applications installed and the "Programs"-folder in windows grows several pages long.. not very easy to find The applications you are looking for... and KDE suffers from the same. Maybe ever worse because often an application doesent connect to the name of the folder it is found in.

A complete new application access theory is needed! Something that the world has never seen before!

KDE could lead the way of a complete new navigation theory, must say that I havent figured how yet, it could really accomplish something instead of just copying bad ideas from other os's. This would be a BIG step ahead in competion. As easy access to applications is one of the most important ideas of a modern GUI.

-daniel-
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RPM broken
by Dratomix on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @04:29
I have both KDE 2.2 and Ximian GNOME 1.4.
Some libraries from kde-pim rpms have same name of Ximian Evolution's libraries.
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couple of missing things.
by Danny on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @05:23
A few things are missing in kde:

1) Find in ftp directories (ever tried to search a specific rpm on a ftp mirror?)

2) _configurable_ right click menus in, for example, konqueror. So we can finally:
- add to zip, tgz, bzip2
- send to kate, kword, kmail
- etc

3) Change screen resolution & virtual screen size. (I know, I know, this is an XFree thingy, but RandR extension is progressing terribly slowly, Maybe a dirty
QT hack can solve this by just telling the apps screen size is now 800x600 even if
the virtual screen is 1024x768??)

4) Copy/paste of Objects like spreadsheat cells, pictures, etc. Or is QT3 already doing this?

5) Control panel for system resources. I know we have a lot of system information in the control panel, but loading/unloading modules + setting
parameters like irq, dma io etc. would be nice. Also nice for turning off/on
DMA, etc on you HDD.


Danny
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ftp
by Johann Ollivier-Lapeyre on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @06:13
Sorry for my poor english... :)

With KDE 2.2, we can create a ftp link in konqueror ( ftp://login:pwd@server if i remember) using 'http link', but.

Unfortunately:
1) It's hard to remember. It's would be cool to add "ftp link" in the right mouse list, with the differents options like an ftp client (ftp server, login, pwd, passive mode,...).

2) Actualy, we can't edit file from ftp like 'UltraEdit' on Windows. On Kate for example, it edit the file "ftp link" itself, but don't browse the server to select a file like an harddrive. It's unless...
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SuSE/Pre-linking bugfixes?
by Zaq Rizer on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @07:31
A couple of issues with SuSE distributions that I'm wondering if they have been fixed or will be fixed in this or future releases:

1) objPrelinking (found under the experimental i686 rpms). Supposedly makes things run faster, I guess, however, having these features set up causes Konqueror (greatest Linux program EVER, btw) to crash on the simplest Javascript functions. This has been documented and a solution found at the konq faq said, "Don't use the i686 rpms". WTF? That's not a solution.

2) Not sure if this is a Kde issue or not (but I think it is). After installing X4.1.0, kdm doesn't load anymore. It bails out with

"/opt/kde2/bin/kdm: error while loading shared libraries: /opt/kde2/bin/kdm: __
undefined symbol: _XdmcpWrapperToOddParity"

Again, this has been documented (somewhere I forget). It is also features a non-solution reading something on the order of "this version of kdm is incompatible." This causes alot of problems for a newbie idiot like me (such as how do I switch WMs now?)

Sorry to bitch, because you K developers have got to be the creme da le creme if I've ever seen it. Hope to join you some day.

Regards,
~Z
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My one Wish
by G. Richard Raab on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @08:11
I have a real problem with the idea that All data is saved to files. Likewise that the file to go to the Printer is somehow unique. It should be apparent that the idea of Export/Import suggests that the File Menu is incorrect. It is simply a hang-over from days gone by.

Instead, there should be three possible types of Streams being outputed.
General, most likely a local format.
Record-Oriented (perhaps xml based).
Page-Oriented (postscript) .
At that point, then should have a dialog from which to send the Stream, that is, record-oriented can go to Files, Databases, E-Mail, IM, etc.
Page-oriented can be sent to the Printer, but could also be converted to images, or perhaps Fax (tiff vs postscript).
Offer filters for converting from one format to another to be used across all apps e.g. portscript -> jpeg, postscript -> tiff, My application specific General Stream -> html.
Finally, change the menu to reflect it.

Location
New
--------
(Defaults)
--------
Send To...
Get From...
--------
Close
Exit


(Default) should be a user modifable area where they can place the common ones, such as File, or Print.


The Send To should bring up a Dialog for sending the Streams to various areas. General Stream available => File System, Http, Ftp, E-mail, another Application (think pipe).
Record Stream available => same as General Streams, Database.
Page Stream available => same as General Streams, Printer, Fax.
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Just one tiny wish
by David Johnson on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @10:32
Please separate out the Linux-only software into their own package. Since KDE is more than just a Linux-only desktop, it makes no sense to make non Linux users download software they will never use. Most of these tools (which are fine Linux tools, by the way) are in the kdeadmin package, but a few are not. Even stuff like the Tux icons are inappropriate outside of Linux.

I know most of you guys develop on Linux, and that some of you don't even realize the existance of other operating systems, but there are a few of us out here using other Unix systems.

By placing these programs into their own package, such as kdelinux, they can still be considered "default" programs by Linux distros and users.
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Wish: thumbnails, previews and konqueror
by Carlos Rodrigues on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @10:54
I think that alongside with the option to show thumbnails of files as their icon in konqueror, there should be possible to preview them in the right-click menu, just like picaview does in windows (but for more than just images), perhaps with an option to just show a square reading "preview" until the user clicks it. This would give the users some of the advantages of thumbnais without having to process an entire directory along with some of the advantages of the embedded image viewer, without having to constantly go back and forth.
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Dark widget issues
by Benjamin Atkin on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @12:10
I have a really cool CDE-ish green color theme, and earlier I had a nice blue one. The blue one I had to get rid of because on the virtual desktop, the numbers wouldn't display. My new white on dark green one, which is shown in the attatched screenshot, has a white window background and white text for buttons and menus.

There is a problem with the calendar widgets, and I've seen it one other time and I don't remember when. The white toolbar, status, etc. text gets put on the white calendar background. This is shown in the attatchment.

So I want this improved. I'd like the white on white problem fixed, as well as the nearly invisible desktop numbering when it's dark blue.

Also, it would be nice if the dark-buttoned konqueror widgets had white text as well.

KDE would then be the best supporter of the dark-buttoned look.
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kcontrol issues
by purity on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @12:37
I think that the KDE control panel needs to be reworked. Right now, it is *way* too cluttered, and is thus hard to find things. I think a better approach would be to have it like MS-Windows or MacOS, in which the top level control panel shows large icons (the current things in the tree. Each of these, when clicked, would open a new window with the options.

As for KDE applications, I think that a little bit more consistance is good, especially in menu items. For example, decide if you want to call the preferences/options/settings menu item in an app one or the other. It varies quite a bit in KDE applications.

It'd also be nice to configure the Kate editor part's options in kcontrol, as you can already configure Konqueror and kwin options there.

If you fix these in KDE 3.0, it'll make my day. If you don't, that's ok too :)./
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Wishes
by theref on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @18:04
Hi, this is what I'd like to see in KDE 3, in addition to most of the other wishes already:

1. Make all menus tearoffable
2. Menus should be tearoffable by simply 1). clicking on a menu while still holding the mouse down 2). move the mouse down under the menu 3). a shadow of the menu would then popup, and it can be moved wherever

3. move the tearoff handle in menus to the TOP, instead of the bottom, like where it is now. This is especially more better in terms of usability for long menus.

Thank You!
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My Wish
by kc on Tuesday 11/Sep/2001, @00:48
Hi, I want the KDE splash screen to have a new image and for every version after that!

I think a simpler white background with KDE in big black helvetica letters and the cog motif somewhere there.
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More wishes
by Electroniceric on Wednesday 12/Sep/2001, @14:17
Most of the wishes I've seen here sound like good ideas.

My huge wish:

A new session management setup.

Since many of us now have access to *nix on several machines, a really useful thing the KDE could broker would be keeping running apps inside a session, and manage those apps. When you log out, you would have the option of killing all your running apps, putting them to sleep, lowering their priority, suspending them to disk, or leaving them as they are. Further advancements would be a graphical way to detach processes and leave them running (like compilers, for example)

Then when you return to login via KDM, you could return to the session you left alive, or start a new session (on a new display, if you're starting a new session on the same machine). All of this would be run over SSL, meaning that we wouldn't have to worry in the future about security complaints (or at least they'd be easy to fix). And one could easily add VPN support.

I don't know how hard it would be , and I would welcome comments on where the difficulties might lie.

Uses:

I leave my box running at home when I go to work. My roommate could come and login and use apps that run out of her own home directory, without me killing all my own apps. Since I have a 1GHz box, this shouldn't be all this big a deal.

I leave apps running at work, and could pick up a session right where I left it, either from home or work, just by logging back into that session.


Thoughts about this. I think it would be excellent.

Cheers,

Eric
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The Question: WHY ARTS ?
by Loopkin on Thursday 13/Sep/2001, @13:04
I've never seen any satisfactory answer to that:
why does KDE use aRts ???
1- this is the worse piece of software included in KDE, it leaks memory like hell (seems worse in kde 2.2 than before, btw), or it crashes without any reason...
2- everybody outta here use ESD (look at flash, realplayer, etc.)

can't we modify ESD in order to give him an aRts interface for backward compatibility, and go on that way ? or is MCOP compatibility too hard to implement ? in this case, why not implementing ESD compatibility ?

anyway, maybe i'm tough, but it's very frustratring that it crashes all the time, and not to be able to use esd-compliant progs (artsdsp doesn't work well at all). or maybe i'm the only one still using an old sound card with only one audio device ?
btw, KDE 2.2 has decreased memory consumption, but processes are more keen to have memory leaks. after a quick look at bugs.kde.org, seems they're all known... waiting for 2.2.1... maybe they will be a 2.2.2 ? ;-)
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One more wish (unicode fonts)
by Carlos Rodrigues on Thursday 13/Sep/2001, @13:58
I wish they'd fix the problem with utf-8 charset webpages, I've made some changes to ttmkfdir2 to make my truetype fonts available as unicode and that fixed most of the problems, but for pages that rely on the default font it still looks really ugly (take a look at http://www.kernel.org). I would like if they just defaulted to using the default charset fonts if the page doesn't specify the fonts itself, like all other browsers do.
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Wish
by Macolu on Friday 14/Sep/2001, @09:03
Hello !!

You should implement full support for the smb ioslave (read and write).
It's appears being read-only in 2.2....

Thanks
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A wharf for KDE
by Charles Samuels on Friday 14/Sep/2001, @18:58
I've attached a screenshot of stuff I've been doing while my internet has been out.

a) It's obvious the k-menu is copying from microsoft's start button
b) wharfs are easily more usuable than that
c) wharfs (and NeXT's user interface), at least in my opinion, is the pinnacle of UI design, it does everything right, at least with their "panel" : It puts it on the right-top, it makes the icons larger
d) starting an app with kicker takes very much siginificantly longer than a wharf: (kicker) move mouse, click, move mouse, move mouse, move mouse, click; (wharf) move mouse, click, move mouse, click
e) Users have difficulty identifying apps for the first time by icon, all wharf buttons can have captions.
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KDE 2.2.1
by Tannhaus on Monday 17/Sep/2001, @18:01
Where is it? It's the 17th and it's nowhere to be found
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So where is it?
by MattB on Tuesday 18/Sep/2001, @09:54
Today is Tuesday September the 18th 2001 and it still hasn't been a Offcial release for KDE 2.2.1 on www.kde.org, and so far there is no sign of the release except the directory. Don't feel rushed, take your time and do a good job.

Thanks
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Things that make you go KKKKKKKKKKKK...
by Luke on Wednesday 19/Sep/2001, @05:22
Well, here's my input.
1. Perhaps the k-menu could be turned into an applet, which has many reincarnations and the user can choose whichever suits them

2. Is it hard to implement animated cursors? how about colour cursors? well it's just that I go to use windoze and it has this fancy cursor, much more configurable and better looking than the X one. maybe KDE can implement this?

3. I second the idea for a theme/style creater.

4. Maybe some fancy animations? like a button which flips over when the mouse is over it? or like the superflous option in WindowMaker the window explodes?
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