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Re: Eye candy =)
by Spark on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @06:21
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Has it? I don't think so.
AFAIK transparency tricks like the Liquid menus or the transparent windows while moving in Enlightenment still have to be done by copying the screen to a buffer and using this as the background. :(
That's why this Enlightenment windows always stop for a second before you can move them transparently. This sucks.
Alpha blending could be used for so many things...
X is not really the greatest thing for a desktop.
I would gladly switch to DirectFB for desktop rendering and user X only for 3D games anymore.
echo "exec quake3" > .xinitrc
startx
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Re: Eye candy =)
by Carbon on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @12:37
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Hmm, lack of one eye-candy oriented feature (that's already currently in devel) is hardly reason to switch entirely to FB. FB is good, but X has quite a bit going for it, like network windowing support, and acclerated 2d.
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Re: Eye candy =)
by Greg on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @14:29
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Not really. Xfree really doesn't have that much 3d support, nor hardware 2d. I know this is a complicated thing, you have to implement OpenGL or Mesa to even have and hardware acceleration in Xfree. Still, my video card, an S3 Savage4, that is has hardware accelerated 2d and 3d cannot do hardware acceleration because it is only implemented for 3dFX, Matrox, and NVidia chipsets. What about the rest of us? If I had full hardware accel. support for my board, X and KDE would no doubt run so much faster, but as I don't they are noticeably slower compared to win 98 with hardware accel. support from the manufacturer. Absolutely no 3d games for me until Mesa can fully support my card's chipset.
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Re: Eye candy =)
by Spark on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @15:32
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Accelerated 2D is MUCH better with DirectFB! They even have a DirectFB X-Server, which outperformces XFree in benchmarks. Couldn't try it yet.
XFree has more drivers and better 3D support. Drivers will come and 3D support is not important for the desktop (I could still launch XFree from within the DirectFB desktop for the game).
The network support is something, that many users don't really need. :)
It would be great, if KDE could just run on "Qt" (not Xlibs) and Qt would run natively on DirectFB, so you could choose your environment.
X is really not everybody's taste.
Or their could be something like a "layer" between Qt, the hardware/operating system and KDE, so you just had to port this layer (along Qt) to other plattforms if you want to run KDE on them.
KDE could become a kernel independent operating system, like Qube or Athene. :) That would really rock.
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Re: Eye candy =)
by Carbon on Monday 10/Sep/2001, @19:19
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>KDE could become a kernel independent operating system, like Qube or Athene. :) That would really rock.
Eh, I dunno about that. There's a whole lot more code and work in between a DE and a full OS, and the KDE developers are working hard enough as it is. On the other hand, perhaps a Linux distro dedicated to nothing but KDE (and not a crappy commercial one either, but an open source distro) would be very cool.
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