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Re: Wonderful!
by Robi on Thursday 06/Dec/2001, @03:07
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there's a good description on www.cups.org. As Jon already said cups together with the gimpprint drivers make a quite good printing system. I'm using it with a hp970cxi and I'm happy with the results... You should give it a try. What distribution do you use?
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Re: Wonderful!
by Andreas on Thursday 06/Dec/2001, @04:21
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yeah! but the printer world "outside" the domain of hp is still in the darkages and have always been
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Re: Wonderful!
by Geir on Thursday 06/Dec/2001, @04:32
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Even inside the HP domain as well. And CUPS can be fairly shaky with Samba in a mixed environment. Not happy with CUPS at all
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Re: Wonderful!
by Jon on Thursday 06/Dec/2001, @04:42
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Not true at all.
At I mentioned in my previous reply, gimp-print is a collection of printer drivers for many inkjet and laser printers. Take a look at their supported printers list:
http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/p_Supported_Printers.php3
I can personally vouch for the excellent quality of their Epson inkjet drivers.
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Re: Wonderful!
by stuart_farnan on Thursday 06/Dec/2001, @04:46
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I have a Samsung ML 6060N, network printer, apparently it supports linux, but the instructions for their including software are terrible, in fact, non-existent. So basically, does anyone know how to make this work with linux?
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Re: Wonderful!
by Andreas on Thursday 06/Dec/2001, @05:48
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I have a mita 570 laserprinter ... no support! hardware support for linux is not good but it's getting better and better
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Re: Wonderful!
by Jon on Thursday 06/Dec/2001, @07:10
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One of the reason Epson inkjets and decent HP laserjets are well supported is that they speak a command language (ESC/P / PCL). Write a driver for that command language, and you support all the printers which understand it. Similar to having a modem which understands the AT command set.
The problem is that many cheap modern printers are 'winprinters'. Just like with 'winmodems', they have stripped out of all the complicated electronics, and make the computer do all the processing. This makes writing drivers for them much much more compilicated.
Do a bit of research the next time you are buying a product, to check that it isn't a crippled 'winproduct'.
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Re: Wonderful!
by Andreas on Thursday 06/Dec/2001, @07:44
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personly I never buy hardware without linux support ... the printer isnt mine
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Re: Wonderful!
by Michael Goffioul on Thursday 06/Dec/2001, @06:22
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I don't want to answer all the posts. I'll just try to give some clues. For people having printing problem, some mailing lists exists and we'd be glad to help you if we can (http://cups.sourceforge.net, http://printing.kde.org).
If you're looking for printer support, the first thing you should do is to have a look at http://www.linuxprinting.org. This site has a huge DB about printing under Linux, and you can also download drivers from there. Now, about the printer support under Linux, let me state that the first reason about the poor support is mainly due to the printer manufacturers themselves. So I'm tempted to say that if you really want to complain, send an e-mail to your printer manufacturer. This situation is slowly changing, and some big manufacturer has begun to support Linux. But in most cases, the printer protocol is proprietary and drivers can only be made be reverse engineering, which takes a lot of time.
Being in the printing world for quite some time, I can tell you however that many printers *are* supported under Linux. All PS printers of course, PCL printers (3,4,5, at least), Epson printers, Lexmark printers, Canon printers, even so-called "winprinters" are partially supported (like the PPA printers from HP). In many cases, your printer *is* supported, the only thing is to know how, and that's where linuxprinting.org is useful. Of course not *all* printers are supported, especially some "exotic" ones, because they are not commonly used, especially by people that would be tempted to write a driver for them. In that case, the only possibility is to ask the manufacturer.
I'd like also to add that KDEPrint is not a low level library, it's mainly intended to be a user interface between KDE applications and a print spooler. In no way it deals with supporting this or that printer, this is the job of the print spooler, and KDEPrint doesn't aim to help there.
Bye.
Michael.
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