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Re: Desktop look...
by Ian Reinhart Geiser on Friday 08/Feb/2002, @07:42
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on the off chance you read the actual notes about it you will see that he DOESNT reccomend this to anyone on less than an intel 400Mhz and says that this is very slow on a PPC.
hrm, sounds like a real show stopper to me, seeing as I can get 90% of KDE's effects to work very fast on my 400Mhz PPC, and resonably on my 333 AMD K6.
lets face it, KDE 3.0 is a marked improvment of speed and features, just becase GNOME has icons that can change size well dosent mean that they better. I mean personally I think haveing a usable file dialog is 10000x more important that some silly eye candy. For giggles ask a gnomer to change their wallpaper from the commandline... without restarting anything, when they cry that it cannot be done, fire up DCOP ;)
I think you will find that KDE 2.x and now KDE 3.0 are far more usable than anything the GNOMEs have cranked out thus far.
just my 2c
-ian reinhart geiser
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Re: Desktop look...
by Etriaph on Friday 08/Feb/2002, @07:58
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I don't think any of us would argue that the GNOME developers know how to make a very attractive interface. All of it *looks* great, but that's where my praise stops. You can have the hottest, most attractive looking desktop in the world, but if it doesn't make you productive than what's the point? Now I know a lot of users just want to type their essays, listen to mp3s and chat on IRC, but for those of us with work to do, GNOME is pretty but not pretty useful.
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Re: Desktop look...
by Timothy R. Butler on Friday 08/Feb/2002, @10:26
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It may be better then good... until you want a different color than the theme's default. Please, by all means, point me to the color selection tool in Gnome (HINT: there isn't one). Also try web browsing in Nautilus and then compare that to Konqueror.
Sure you can make Gnome look pretty - that's never been a problem. However, if you want customization, or a *really* good file manager, or a truly well integrated system - then you should use KDE.
-Tim
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Re: Desktop look...
by Rinse on Friday 08/Feb/2002, @14:53
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A lot of replies talk about Gnome apps (gimp, abiword) while those apps are in fact GTK-apps, which is a small but significant difference...
Kind regards, Rinse
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Re: Desktop look... (how about this one)
by John Herdy on Saturday 09/Feb/2002, @05:20
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Want a nice desktop. Look at this:
http://www.mosfet.org/liquid2.png
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Re: Desktop look...
by Bryan Feeney on Saturday 09/Feb/2002, @06:41
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Gnome has always had some excellent artists working for it, and it's looked great as a result. However there's some great stuff in the pipeline for KDE with the work of Everaldo and AntiAlias (and of course the huge amount of effort made by Tackat - cheers!). At the moment KDE is functionally better than Gnome. That goes without saying - we're at 2.2.2, they're at 1.4.x. When Gnome 2 comes out it'll be more or less even again.
But here's the thing. I love KDE. I use it all the time (er, except for right now where I'm using it with Enlightenment 'cause I'm a sucker for translucency). But I use Evolution for my mail - it looks good, is easy to use and has a funky address book (anyone ever think of doing a KOShell clone for Kmail, Korganiser, and the mail book?). I use Dia for all my technical drawing - it's simple, but it's also brilliantly easy for what I want to do. The same with the Gimp. Kivio and Krayon just aren't what I want. KSpread is nowhere near Gnumeric when it comes to export/import or serious scientific spreadsheet work (e.g. mindwarping stats assignments). But I use them both depending on what I want to do.
I don't want to use either KDE or Gnome (or Qt and GTK for that matter). I want to use them both. Both have excellent apps. For my money KDE provides the better overall environment. People bitching about colouring Gnome themes need to calm down, you'll be able to do that when Gnome 2 comes out (around March, same as KDE 3). In fact, March should be a great month from the end-user point of view, as it'll mark a point of substantially closer integration between the two DEs. Hopefully by the following year people will have come up with a common themes format so the differences will become invisible.
Seriously guys, even Slashdot's gotten over the KDE/Gnome thing. This kinda conversation's about as productive as a turnip. Really, what people need to do is to use both apps and environments, see their advantages and disadvantages without going postal, and then ripoff anything that seems like a good idea for their own team ;-)
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Eyuuuch!
by Vajsravana on Saturday 09/Feb/2002, @15:33
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Ugly as hell! Seems like a MAC! :((
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