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Re: Desktop look...
by Dr_LHA on Friday 08/Feb/2002, @14:46
> KSpread, - Like GNUmeric only it dosent crash as much and has better integration

Have you actually tried Gnumeric > 1.0 with Guppi. It's excellent.

> KWord - Like Abiword only more features, granted thats not that hard

Abiword at least started from a stable base, i.e. the ability to do WYSIWYG printing. I can't believe anyone would write a word processor and not consider the ability to print the most vital feature! Don't knock Abiword, it may be simple - but it does the job 99% of the time.

> Kivio - Like dia only with a more powerful python/xml based shape engine

Sorry - but have you actually tried to use Kivio or Dia? I actually decided to use to produce some professional flow charts for ESA documentation and they both suck.

> Konqi - about 1/2 the size of Mozilla

But Galeon is the gnome browser and to be honest - it's what I use all the time now.

Also Evolution beats the crap out of any KDE mail/pim program and I seriously think that KDE should dump kpilot and go with gpilotd which actually works (Evolution calendar syncs beautifully with my Palm).

For the record I use KDE2.2.2 as my desktop - but that doesn't precude me from using gnome apps if I think they're better for my productivity. I'm looking forward to the next release of KOffice alot, but at the moment - I'll stick with whats best for the job.
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Re: Desktop look...
by Sean Russell on Friday 08/Feb/2002, @17:30
> Abiword at least started from a stable base, i.e. the ability to do WYSIWYG printing. I can't believe anyone would
> write a word processor and not consider the ability to print the most vital feature! Don't knock Abiword, it may be
> simple - but it does the job 99% of the time.

I have to disagree. Anything that Abiword is adequate for, I've found, I might as well use vi for. Any non-trivial document I've ever written requires features not found in Abiword.

That said, KWord isn't much better. My wife, an author, can't use KWord because, as of the latest stable release, printing is still screwed up. However, at least it has styles, an absolute minimum for any document over a page or two.

One thing I *really* like about Abiword is the export to docbook. I wish KWord would adopt this. If I had more time, I'd write a couple of XSLT stylesheets to convert between the two. Actually, Abiword's export and import facilities far outshine KWords, unless you're only interested in MSWord imports, in which case KWord's is marginally better, and both are vastly inferior to StarOffice.

> For the record I use KDE2.2.2 as my desktop - but that doesn't precude me from using gnome apps if I think they're
> better for my productivity. I'm looking forward to the next release of KOffice alot, but at the moment - I'll stick
> with whats best for the job.

IMHO, unless you need rigid control over formatting, KWord is much superior to Abiword. Printing is sufficient, as long as (as I said) you aren't trying to do a resume, or something that requires true WYSIWYG.

But, in the end, StarOffice still beats the pants off of either, in both printing and features. It's a memory hog, but it is the only real alternative to MSWord for people who's jobs depend on a good word processor.
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  • Re: Desktop look...
    by Ricardo Galli on Wednesday 13/Feb/2002, @15:29
    One thing I *really* like about Abiword is
    the export to docbook. I wish KWord would adopt this.


    See last section in
    http://bulmalug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1061.
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