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Re: KDE making some big steps
by Sun Tzu on Monday 04/Mar/2002, @19:49
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Know your enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles, you will never be defeated. When you are ignorant of the enemy but know yourself, your chances of winning or losing are equal. If ignorant both of your enemy and of yourself, you are sure to be defeated in every battle.
- Art of War, Chapter 3: Offensive Strategy
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Re: KDE making some big steps
by Carbon on Monday 04/Mar/2002, @20:29
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You stole my car! Bad bunny!
Now you've driven it over that cliff! Bad, _bad_ bunny!!
- Torg (Sluggy Freelance)
Sorry, just couldn't resist doing that when people started quoting :-)
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Re: KDE making some big steps
by Neil Stevens on Monday 04/Mar/2002, @20:59
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OK, that's nice, but is that all KDE is? An organization fighting against another? Or is it a community sharing and producing software?
If KDE is to be thought of in military terms, then that's a real shame.
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Re: KDE making some big steps
by Hey on Monday 04/Mar/2002, @22:44
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Generally, software is not made to be disused. If KDE is gonna be used more it will be at the cost of other desktops. It would be great if KDE could unseat Microsoft and be widely used.
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Re: KDE making some big steps
by Evan "JabberWokky" E. on Tuesday 05/Mar/2002, @09:39
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:: If KDE is to be thought of in military terms, then that's a real shame.
The Art of War is actually quite applicable to many many facets of life. But I'd like to submit an alternate view: MS is not the enemy, nor is Gnome. The tasks we do are.
Ignore the progress of the alternatives like Windows, Mac and Gnome, except for the simple acknowledging them as a source of ideas. Just code KDE to accomplish the tasks you and those you know need to accomplish. Make it easy as possible, and when it's stable, make it snappy (fast) and look nice.
...of course, that's pretty much what's been going on to date. I think the results of that speak for themselves. We just saw the look nice phase hit at the end of the 2.x series, and for those using the 3.x prerelease, I think we're seeing the speed improvements - all on top of the stability we've come to expect.
I, for one, don't care if Windows (or Mac) has 99.9% of the userbase - I have KDE, which suits my needs. I'd like KWord to be a bit more advanced, but that's about it (and for those who are wondering, I've used KWord in a realworld, twice weekly publishing with a sharp deadline role. Granted, it was for two RPG groups, but that means lots of text, graphics and layout work for every game. It performed well enough so that I'm satisfied it use it for business purposes now. When the quirks with printing are resolved (in other words, as soon as the current CVS code goes stable), I'll recommend it to others.
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Evan
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Re: KDE making some big steps
by jj on Tuesday 05/Mar/2002, @11:03
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In general I would agree with your statements.
Unfortunately, MS is trying everything they can to make my job harder if I am not using their software (like switching to different file formats that I can not read; web sites designed with outlook that I can not view, etc.).
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Re: KDE making some big steps
by Neil Stevens on Tuesday 05/Mar/2002, @14:04
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Unless you're directly doing business with Microsoft, it's not Microsoft wh's making your job harder. It's your employers or customers who make your job harder by choosing to use Microsoft products.
Lay the blame where it belongs. Don't treat all the Microsoft users like children who can't think for themselves.
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