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.NET is a big waste of time
by .NET is a big waste of time on Sunday 17/Mar/2002, @14:24
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Now, these days, it seems that most programs are written in a programming language. It also happens that most utilize an application programming interface (API).
In trying to understand what .NET was, I decided to split it into the C# language and the API (which is called CLI or something). C++ was the object oriented derivate of C, and one example of API is Qt (of which KDE looks like an extension), another is GTK+ (of which GNOME looks like an extension) with its C++ bindings. Then comes Objective-C and OpenStep, Java and Java (um, Java language and Java API)...
I don't think the world needs another one! |
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Re: .NET is a big waste of time
by Gaute Lindkvist on Sunday 17/Mar/2002, @16:46
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Bah.. yet more trolling. .NET is actually a good idea. First of all, C# looks like a nice language, although a pretty unoriginal java-copycat.
But the second idea, of a CLI (Common Language Interface), which makes it so you won't have to write new bindings for each and every language is a good idea.
If it works, MONO would be a very nice development platform for it seems BOTH Gnome and KDE. Way to go!
Perhaps it will also mean that you can program once, and have it run under both Windows, KDE, and Gnome with native look and feel.
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Re: .NET is a big waste of time
by Marc on Tuesday 19/Mar/2002, @05:06
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We can port program in Java since years and it work very well.
In Java, there is even a native toolkit integration. It is called AWT.
And nobody uses it! It is not because it not slow or because the API is bad.
It goes even very fast.
But when you write your application for a OS (ex Linux), it looks awful
in another one (ex Windows). To solve that, you finish by having a part
of your code that handles the difference between the OS. Just because
of that, nobody uses it.
I do not want to see .NET. Just because it is Microsoft. They do not
compete by technology but by a huge distribution channel.
In the Java world, everything is not perfect too.
I think there is no public implementation of AWT in QT. It is just Motif.
Trolltech has written one for the Zaurus. But it is not available on Linux.
It should be very, very good to have it as a standard part of the JDK on Linux
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Re: .NET is a big waste of time
by Boemer on Tuesday 22/Feb/2005, @11:37
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AWT was terrible, you probably mean SWT?
Swing is also terrible, first you need a good look & feel,
combining the new XP look+feel with JGoodies is a good way...
But with Java you can't make quickly some dialogs, with C#
and .NET you can get good looking dialogs very quickly.
Just like I could for years with Delphi.
Java has its strong points, but GUI development is not one
of them. And for Gnome and KDE we need GUI's not backend
programs.
C# is a good programming languages, it has most of the things
I liked from Delphi, and as a big improvement over C++ and C, it
has internal string class. It would be nice if Trolltech would help
and make a version where the QString class is not needed any
more for the QT/C# bindings.
But I don't see many differences between using Mono with GTK#
or QT#, and Java using SWT, for every plattform you need a
new GUI Design. Hopefully one day someone will come up with
a better solution for that...
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Re: .NET is a big waste of time
by Guillaume Laurent on Monday 18/Mar/2002, @01:13
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<i>Now, these days, it seems that most programs are written in a programming language.</i>
No, really ? Wow, that's really deep. Makes one think, doesn't it ?
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