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  KDE 3.0RC3: Prepare to Fall in Love
KDE Official News Posted by Dre on Wednesday 20/Mar/2002, @23:40
from the i-didnt-know-it-could-be-this-good dept.
The KDE Project has announced the release of KDE 3.0RC3 (on this, the first day of Spring). The release comes a month after the release of KDE 3.0beta2, with two (semi-public) release candidates, as well as a well-attended 1-week hacking session for fixing problems, appearing in the interim. KDE 3.0rc3 can be downloaded through KDE's load-balancing system (source code, RedHat packages (only partially uploaded at this time), and SuSE packages). Additional packages should become available in the coming days, both on KDE's and some distributions' servers. Other than for show-stopper fixes, this release candidate will be released early next month as KDE 3.0. Personal impression: love at first sight, it simply rocks!

As much as I hate to admit it, with my busy schedule I have not been able to keep up the KDE 3 releases. But yesterday morning I installed KDE 3.0rc3 and, to be honest, it is truly magnificent! Konqueror is fast, fast, fast! Never seen anything like it (except maybe Lynx) in the main browsers - even long pages in my Most Often Visited list all but instantly popped into place.

The rest of KDE 3 is simply spectacular, too. Everything is snappier, from menus (despite the addition of cool menu icons) and dialogs (these pop up much faster) to applications, and the look is even more professional than KDE 2. Wowwww, I am in total awe. Superb, excellent, amazing job, guys, KDE 3 absolutely rules!

Due to the imminence of the 3.0 release, for this release candidate only, please post crashes and grave bug reports directly to kde-devel@kde.org rather than using the conventional bug reporting system. Let's see who of you can make KDE 3.0 even better by finding any elusive shot-stopper bugs before the end of the week!



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RH packages
by Anonymous on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @05:17
Anyone knows when Redhat packages will be ready ?
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Re: two (semi-public) release candidates
by oliv on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @06:26
Nice to learn that a new RC is out.... BUT WHY DOESN'T KDE MENTIONS THE RC ON THE WEB SITE?

I mean... the last announcement was for the Beta2.
I've seen no RC announcement so far (even on the archives on the mailing-lists I've just browsed).

What's the purpose of a RC? Having the programs to be tested by the biggest number of people, or keep them secret?

I don't get it, can someone explain me. I'm a moderator on a news site, and we have passed every single news on Mandrake 8.2 betas and RC. We would have done the same for KDE if we had heard of these RC (with some official announcements, like changes...)
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Way to go KDE!
by Janne on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @09:16
Of course, I wont be running KDE3 in a while. Knowing Debian, it will take a while before they make packages available. But what I have learned of KDE 3 sounds REALLY promising! New features, new eye-candy, more speed... What more could you ask for?

I hope Konqueror finally has the one feature I have been waiting for. When right-clicking on a thumbnail (for example), and choosing "new window", it should open it in new Konqueror-windows (well duh!) and not ask what app to use to open it. If I choose "new window" in Konqueror, naturally I mean new Konqueror-window.
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Speed & Conq questions
by Frank Rizzo on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @09:23
I have two quick questions about kde3,rc since I can't install it at the moment.

1. It was mentioned that Konqueror and the rest of KDE3 are "fast, fast, fast". What is the reason for such a speed increase? Is it obj-prelinked? If not, can additional gains be made by obj-prelinking?

2. Now to my personal pet-pieve bug in Konq. I am wondering if the "style=display:..." is fixed in Konq 3.0. It was almost fixed in 2.2.x where it worked 50% of the time. For instance, does the sidebar in www.vbrad.com work? It makes heavy use of "style=display:..." to show and hide collapsible lists. Can anyone confirm whether it is fixed or not?
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Keramik style?
by DennisJ on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @09:50
Does anyone know how to get this mysterious keramik style going? It doesn't show up in the control-center but there's a themerc-file in the kstyle dir. Any ideas?
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Any screen shot??
by dmn on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @10:29
As usual.. any screenshots?? I don't have enough bandwidth to download by would like to see how kde glorify. :)

long live kde.
-dmn
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So how do you really feel about it?
by Wolf Blitzer on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @10:50
What gets me is that although this new version is in release candidate mode, SuSE has jumped the gun and is now selling version 8.0 with whatever snapshot build of KDE3.0 it has its hands on. Doesn't that seem a bit premature?
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underwhelmed.....
by Craig Nelson on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @11:24
I really liked beta2 so I was a bit disappointed with how thr RC3 turned out; all of the packages are not to be found in the relevant directory, and to my impression it is much slower and less responsive - crashing through lack of memory when using other apps. Given others' positive response I wonder if this is specific to the SuSE RPM's. (Using SuSE 7.3, 64 MB+550mhz)
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i need libkab.so.4
by Robert Penz on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @14:46
i installed the suse7.2 packages. where can I get that lib, I want my kmail!!! ;-(

robert@notebook:~ > kmail
kmail: error while loading shared libraries: libkab.so.4: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory

notebook:/opt/kde3/lib # l libkab*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1106 Mär 19 13:04 libkabc.la*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Jan 7 15:40 libkabc.so -> libkabc.so.1.0.0*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Jan 7 15:40 libkabc.so.1 -> libkabc.so.1.0.0*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 238897 Mär 19 13:16 libkabc.so.1.0.0*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1469 Mär 19 13:28 libkaboodlepart.la*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 138214 Mär 19 13:41 libkaboodlepart.so*
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keyboard shortcut to start app
by adm on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @15:06
Is there a way to start an application with a shortcut? Where is it configurable?
I want to open a new xterm with ALT+T, mutt with alt+m.

I found lots of things for which I can configure the shortcut, but I didn't find a way to create a new action for a new shorcut....
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What about a splashscreen?
by Jasper Boot on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @15:23
Hi folks!

I think KDE 3 is really lovely and you're all doing a great job! But I also think it's a bit strange there is no splash screen for KDE3 (yet). I mean the one for KDE 2 was really cool and it's an important part of the eye candy, especially to convince new users. It will be the first (graphical) thing they see when booting a pre-installed KDE3-machine (After KDM of course ;-).
The KDE-community has so many artists who do wonderfull things with images, so can anybody explain me why there isn't any splashscreen yet?
It's as far as I know one of the real showstoppers by now.
Another question, are there any links to the splashscreen made by Qwertz, which is mentioned in the KDE-feature list?

Regards,

Jasper
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Warning, Newbie alert.
by SlipperJim on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @15:27
Hi.
I want to compile KDE3.0 on a machine that does not have an internet connection.
Currently I'm using SUSE 7.2.
Where can I go to find out
a)what files I need
b)how to install them from a zip disk.
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KDE3 KICKS ASS!!!!
by Magnus Jonsson on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @15:52
GREAT AWESOME JOB KDE-DEVELOPERS!!!!

You have created a spectacular Linux Desktop Environment!!!

Thank you very much.. for an awesome linux desktop...

Cheerz,
Magnus
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Missing kdenetwork.rpm for SuSE 7.3 ?
by Denis on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @16:00
I am really, REALLY impressed how smooth the new RC is running! Actually, this has been the first time multimedia stuff, sound etc. worked "out of the box" .. at least for me. Great Stuff!

One thing: I can't find the Network package for SuSE 7.3 .. am I blind, stupid, or is it really missing ?
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RedHat QT package?
by Anonymous on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @16:01
I tried installing the kdelibs package on RH 7.2 (only kdelibs because I wanted to see where the files were going to be placed), and I got the following failed dependencies:

qt >= 3.0.3 is needed by kdelibs-3.0-0.rc3.1
arts >= 7:0.9.9 is needed by kdelibs-3.0-0.rc3.1
cups-libs >= 1.1.12 is needed by kdelibs-3.0-0.rc3.1
libartsflow.so.1 is needed by kdelibs-3.0-0.rc3.1
libartsflow_idl.so.1 is needed by kdelibs-3.0-0.rc3.1
libkmedia2_idl.so.1 is needed by kdelibs-3.0-0.rc3.1
libmcop.so.1 is needed by kdelibs-3.0-0.rc3.1
libqt-mt.so.3 is needed by kdelibs-3.0-0.rc3.1
libqtmcop.so.1 is needed by kdelibs-3.0-0.rc3.1
libsoundserver_idl.so.1 is needed by kdelibs-3.0-0.rc3.1

None of those really worries me except for the one about QT. I don't see a package for QT in the RedHat directories. Are the libraries in another package?

I hope I'm not going to have to compile QT from source... it takes forever on a 300mhz machine.
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It's not fast on a PII-233 w/ 64mb RAM
by NotSpeedyBox on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @16:09
got a room full of those :-(
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Fastest browser on earth
by /me on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @16:20
/me thinks Opera has no right to claim to have the fastest browser on earth anymore :) The new Konqi simply rocks. How are they doing that? It seems they read minds and preload all pages I want to look at :)
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problem
by hw on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @16:23
i compile kde2-rc2 and qt-3.0.2 from source,
but when i start kde3 none of the icons show up.
from the console, it says " incompatible libpng "
the libpng in my system is version 1.2.1.
i don't understand i did compile qt3 as explained in http://www.kde.org/install-source.html
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Mandrake 8.2 RPMs
by Anonyomoose on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @17:16
...anyone listening over there?
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libkfile.so.3?
by kde user lost on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @18:48
I run RedHat 7.2. I tried installing by rpm but i run into a lot of problems.
The library that appears to be missing is libkfile.so.3? Is this suppose to come with kdelibs? if so why is it not on my system ( i installed kdelibs). Where can i find the library? Can anybody provide some advice? thank you in advance.
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KDE2 vs KDE3
by Yamamba on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @21:06
wuts ze difrens b/w 'em?
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Threads
by me on Thursday 21/Mar/2002, @22:29
Did someone know about NGPT (Next Generation POSIX Threading) support in Qt\KDE?

http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/pthr say:
12 March 2002: Linux Kernel 2.4.19pre3 now has the NGPT support built in. Using this kernel and higher, you will no longer need to patch the Linux kernel for NGPT support.
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KDE-Graphics for Suse-7.3 ?
by Julien Olivier on Friday 22/Mar/2002, @07:31
All is in the title: no kde-graphics for suse-7.3. Can I download it anywhere ?

PS: (how) can I run Yast2 within KDE3 ?
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KDE3 is too slow
by arabbon on Friday 22/Mar/2002, @08:22
how on earth, can you say KDE3rc3 would be fast, fast, fast ???
on my 600MHz PIII, all SCSI with 380meg and kde3rc3 built from source is even slower than kde2.2.2
(built as release, with all the recommended options)
logging in takes for ever
switching virtual desktops takes half a second for all apps to show up
slidebars for konsole, kompare, ... are extremely slow. the text is miles away from the slidebar position
launching applications still needs a lot of time
drag and drop for Icons on the desktop still makes the icon run behind the mouse pointer
selecting text also is not as fast as moving the mouse
only browsing the file system preforms better now, but this should not even be necessary to talk about.
I don't mind the minor quirks like konqueror does not get the mouse pointer right on slidebars or similar, but why do you spend so much effort on special features (animating icons, themes, themes, themes) rather than improving the basic (look &) feel = performance?
There would be a lot of developers in my company, willing to switch to linux/kde, but not if it is ten times slower than windows2000/XP. ... and nobody will spend money for 2GHz machines, just for animated icons ...
It once was a really fast system, but now I'm really dissapointed seeing Linux going this direction and tired of waiting for a usable desktop.
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by cupoftea on Friday 22/Mar/2002, @09:12
[Dickmode On]
Spring actually started on the 20th this year.
[Dickmode Off]
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Take it easy... :)
by antialias on Friday 22/Mar/2002, @11:01
I understand you are excited about KDE3 release, but remember this is mainly a port to QT3. Yes, Konqi renders web pages much better, it is faster (but Galeon, Opera, Mozilla, Netscape 6.2 are fast as well), and overall GUI has been improved.
And please, words like 'truly magnificent', 'simply spectacular', 'I am in total awe', are maybe a little bit too much :) Koffice has not been ported yet (a lot of development work is expected here), edutainment module is in heavy development, a lot of people still complains about speed (even those who have Pentium III 600 MGz with 256 RAM) especially when starting applications etc. etc. Things are not ideal and things are far from 'spectacular'.

Regards,

antialias
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Loading Instructions
by BOBS on Friday 22/Mar/2002, @14:11
I'd love to try KDE 3 out but do not have time at the moment to work through
resolving depenencies and conflicts. If anyone has simple instructions for installing
on a freshly loaded RH 7.2 machine, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks

Bob
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(almost) completely off-topic
by David Bishop on Friday 22/Mar/2002, @15:09
I've been interested in python lately, and have heard 'round the net that zope is the "killer app" for python. So, I started paying attention to what the sites I frequent run, and of my (short) list, the Dot is the only one. It is also by *far* the one that is down the most. Is this pure coincidence? I never know if it is a zope error, some database thing, or something else entirely (hardware?), but the little admin message on the front page leads me to believe it is zope. Well, anyways, the point of this is, is zope really this unstable (in which case I will run away, fast) and what are other peoples experiences with it?

Thanks, and have a nice day.

P.S. If this is deemed too offtopic, please feel free to email me.
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QT runtime error
by Jesús Antonio Sánchez A. on Saturday 23/Mar/2002, @11:49
Hi. I compiled the recent rc from kde 3, but when it tries to run
kicker it marks an assert error on file qgarray.cpp. I even tried to
follow the compiling advice in README.qt from the qt source (the snapshot
that came in the release). Could anyone help me. My distro is
Slackware 8.0 with gcc-2.95 and glibc-2.1.5. Thanks.
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system requirment
by cosmicflo on Saturday 23/Mar/2002, @11:54
What is the system requirment for KDE3 ?

KDE2 is running on a Pentium1 processor and what about KDE3 ?
Many people and enterprises have Pentium / PentiumMMX class machine.
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I'm impressed
by David Dudley on Saturday 23/Mar/2002, @20:58
Sorry guys, I can't say anything bad about this new KDE3 release, other than possibily a little about a few 'inconsistencies' with Koffice, but I'm sure they will go away soon, also.

I'm extremely impressed with KDE3. I've been building the CVS releases for a while, and it amazes me at how stable the releases are - from one time to the next. I personally like KDE3, and think its probably the first "desktop GUI" that respectably compares with Windows (ugh! did I say that word?). A number of people that are running on other X-window systems have been suitably impressed when I roll in with my laptop, running KDE. I have people who are running that other "32-bit OS" who have begun to ask me how they get the 'kool' graphics and things on their system. You wouldn't believe how many people have never heard of 'gimp', or even Linux for that matter, and are amazed at what you can do without "bro' Bill's" influence in their machines.
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KDE 3.0 INSTALLATION SURVIVAL GUIDE
by KED LOVER on Sunday 24/Mar/2002, @02:54
thank you everybody, for every effort of making KDE a reality,... my problem always was i can't install the new version of KDE i'm always using the KDE system comming with the Linux distribution ( Mandrake...:) my favorite..one).. when I try once to install a difference Version of KDE , i have to download a different QT 3.0 and recompile it with some - XXXXX... parameters....but never succeeedded..

Please... HELP me for a Survival Guide of tunning/installing the QT 3.0... and KDE 3.0 RC .

IT will be Greatfull if you helping in a SHORT Survival GUIDE for installing the KDE 3.0 rc3 and its prerequests...QT 3.0 library.....

Thanks
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Debian Release
by Mikhail on Monday 25/Mar/2002, @02:03
Can I get a release for Debian somewhere?
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Once again the RH rpms fails to work for me
by anonymous on Monday 25/Mar/2002, @02:28
What to do.
I prefer RH since I think their /etc/* and config files are the most sane ones around, but WHY are they so anti KDE?
I am free to have my own opinion and for no particular reason, I hate the Gnome desktop. I dont know why, I dont care why, but it just makes me irritated.

Installing new KDE releases on RH has always been an "adventure", usually it resulted in reinstalling prehistoric X and KDE 0.000001 before it would start working again.
This time I thought, hey they have RH rpm's they link to, perhaps, perhaps, perhaps this time I can safely install it without having to reinstall RH from the CD after it has crashed and burned and fckd my entire disk this time?

Well, it has improved, it just complains with about a million failed dependencies on crap that should be upgraded with rpm --upgrade *.rpm
stool.
I dont want to spend a day or two searching for crap before I can upgrade KDE.

What distribution should I switch to to get it working reliably and that would work when I upgrade? KDE is more important to me than the distro.
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www.iht.com
by Sten Holmström on Monday 25/Mar/2002, @06:12
Am I the only one to get my desktop messed up with strange stripes in all programs after visiting International Herald Tribune - www.iht.com?
I'm suspecting that something might be wrong with the way Konqueror handles Java but maybe it's unique to my istallation?

PS

The real mess comes when you slect something from the dropdown menues!
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HTML fails on one page! (Try it with mozilla)
by Rukhoven on Monday 25/Mar/2002, @06:52
WOW. This one really does exceed my expactaions based upon previous kde3 releases. Really fast and snappy. Konqueror snaps up in appx 1 sec, where it took upto 2 sec in kde 2.2.2. Als much faster than previous releases of KDE 3, where it was definately slower than kde222.
On small problem however. It might be a bug:

The page http://www.tweakers.net does not come through properly anymore in KDE 3 (all versions from beta 1 till now). It does in all other linux browsers weher javascript is enabled. maybe a small error..

I have the error in redhat rpm's as well as the one I compiled frm source. For the rest this is all realy great!!!
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HTML fails on one page! (Try it with mozilla)
by Rukhoven on Monday 25/Mar/2002, @06:53
WOW. This one really does exceed my expactaions based upon previous kde3 releases. Really fast and snappy. Konqueror snaps up in appx 1 sec, where it took upto 2 sec in kde 2.2.2. Als much faster than previous releases of KDE 3, where it was definately slower than kde222.
On small problem however. It might be a bug:

The page http://www.tweakers.net does not come through properly anymore in KDE 3 (all versions from beta 1 till now). It does in all other linux browsers weher javascript is enabled. maybe a small error..

I have the error in redhat rpm's as well as the one I compiled frm source. For the rest this is all realy great!!!
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compiling KDE
by Nicolaus Andratschke on Monday 25/Mar/2002, @06:59
Hi there!

I downloaded and compiled KDE beta1 and beta2(only libs) and saw that there is no libksycoca.so after compiling beta2. I can't believe that some of the libs were skipped or stuffed into one new library between two beta releases. This is also one reason why I can't compile kde-base-beta1 with kde-libs-bet2. Are they even source imcompatible?

NIC
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KMail Request
by AC on Monday 25/Mar/2002, @07:37
KDE3 look awsome. Speed is great on my system P866.

One request, in KMail

I would like to see a way to change to color of the highlighted lines in the main mail window. I'm talking about how kmail highlights every other line. I would like to change that from white to something else.

Is there a better place to post these types of comments?

Other than the above I love it!!!!!!!!!
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libkfile.so.3 Problems
by Just-Me on Monday 25/Mar/2002, @12:11
Seems I'm not the only one having problems with libkfile.so.3. It is nowere on my system. Anyone know what redhat package it is supposed to be in. Seems a lot of kde apps want this darn file.
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love the new konqueror.......but.....
by qgriffith on Monday 25/Mar/2002, @12:24
Flash seems to still not behave right under konqueror I was hoping this would be fixed on this version.
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KDE 3.0
by Bob on Monday 25/Mar/2002, @16:52
I think KDE 3.0 is OLD looking!. Mac OSX's GUI is the standard now for Unix based GUI's. KDE 3.0 doesn't even come close. Give it up KDE!!. You will NEVER top Mac OSX in looks or functionality. Apple blows away KDE in everything. So much for Linux on the desktop and open source!!!. I'll use OSX or Windows XP!!. THE MODERN DAY OPERATING SYSTEMS!!.
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Crashes :-(
by Vadim on Monday 25/Mar/2002, @20:03
Looks wonderful, but kcminit crashes on startup, and then ksplash crashes too. At least it loads, and seems to be working. Maybe it's just something I broke on my system due to too many experiments. I used objprelink, --enable-fast-malloc=full in kdelibs, and --enable-final. Anybody else has problems with that? I will try to submit a bug report later.
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printing
by qgriffith on Tuesday 26/Mar/2002, @07:18
Anyone else not able to print ever since the upgraded to KDE3.0? I printed right before I upgraded now I can't at all and all the errors are just can't talk to to the printer. (yes i checked the printer lol) Gnome won't print either so it may not be a problem unless somehow my cups is hosed.
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KDE 3.0RC3 on Red Hat: Prepare to Fall, period.
by fabio on Tuesday 26/Mar/2002, @09:36
so i've just finished installing 3.0rc3 on RH7.2 and kicker (the kde panel) and kmail are crashing beautifully.

here's what kicker spits up:

(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...[New Thread 1024 (LWP 3105)]
0x41153ca9 in __wait4 ()
from /lib/i686/libc.so.6
#0 0x41153ca9 in __wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6
#1 0x411cf6b4 in __DTOR_END__ () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6
#2 0x40ff26f3 in waitpid (pid=3106, stat_loc=0x0, options=0)
at wrapsyscall.c:172
#3 0x40787382 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#4 0x40ff0a85 in pthread_sighandler (signo=11, ctx=
{gs = 7, __gsh = 0, fs = 0, __fsh = 0, es = 43, __esh = 0, ds = 43, __dsh = 0, edi = 134826064, esi = 0, ebp = 3221216376, esp = 3221216320, ebx = 1097371116, edx = 3221216336, ecx = 0, eax = 45, trapno = 14, err = 4, eip = 1096930442, cs = 35, __csh = 0, eflags = 66054, esp_at_signal = 3221216320, ss = 43, __ssh = 0, fpstate = 0xbfffd9c0, oldmask = 2147483648, cr2 = 49}) at signals.c:97
#5 <signal handler called>
#6 0x4161d48a in KPanelApplet::KPanelApplet () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.3
#7 0x4146c984 in KMiniPager::KMiniPager ()
from /usr/lib/libkminipagerapplet.so.1
#8 0x4146bad6 in init () from /usr/lib/libkminipagerapplet.so.1
#9 0x400dd6ff in PluginLoader::loadApplet () from /usr/lib/libkickermain.so.1
#10 0x4007496e in InternalAppletContainer::InternalAppletContainer ()
from /usr/lib/kicker.so
#11 0x4007cd9b in PluginManager::createAppletContainer ()
from /usr/lib/kicker.so
#12 0x400672a3 in ContainerArea::loadContainerConfig () from /usr/lib/kicker.so
#13 0x40063379 in ContainerArea::initialize () from /usr/lib/kicker.so
#14 0x40061ac5 in Panel::initialize () from /usr/lib/kicker.so
#15 0x40060e4a in Kicker::Kicker () from /usr/lib/kicker.so
#16 0x4005ff3a in main () from /usr/lib/kicker.so
#17 0x410b5627 in __libc_start_main (main=0x804851c <main>, argc=1,
ubp_av=0xbfffe934, init=0x80484e4 <_init>, fini=0x8048690 <_fini>,
rtld_fini=0x4000dcc4 <_dl_fini>, stack_end=0xbfffe92c)
at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129
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Source diffs
by Hywel Mallett on Tuesday 26/Mar/2002, @12:40
People are usually crying out for source diffs by now, but in case anyone's interested, the diffs between 2.2.2 and 3.0rc3 are almost as large as the 3.0rc3 tars, and they don't include the images. So if you wanted diffs, you might as well just download the tars - and be prepared to wait if you're on a slow link. It's worth it (IMHO)

--
Hywel Mallett
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Some display problems in Konqueror
by NÉMETH Balázs on Friday 29/Mar/2002, @04:50
I found that, 2 of the most visited hungarian site doesn't work correctly with Konqueror.

1. www.freemail.hu, the most popular hungarian freemail system. It has about 500.000 registered users. It is not possible to attach a file, when you write an email. Tha Java Script window pop up, and show the upload process, but after the file is uploaded to freemail.hu, the progressbar stops, and the javascript window remain displayed forever, instead of disappearing....

2. www.fn.hu, a very popular hungarian economy newspaper. This page is fragmented in Konqueror, and the selection menu is completely broken, located at the top of the page....

3. I never could not get started Java. Neither nor Sun Java 1.3.1 or Kaffe. I'm sad a little bit.

Another problem for me: the folder tree in KMAIL. I don't want Inbox, Sent, Drafts etc. to be at the top level of the tree! I need a "Local Mail" or similar at the top level -- just like in Mozilla Mail --, and Inbox, Sent etc. must be subfolders in that.

It is very embarassing for me, that my IMAP folders are at the same level, then Inbox, Sent, etc....

I think, Mozilla Mail has a clear conception with the folder tree, KMail should follow it.... Now Kmail folder tree is as stupid, as Outlook Express's.

Finally: KSCD and Noatun should be integrated. In this case, KDE will have a feature rich media player, like XMMS.

Now XMMS is the winner :(
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the $64000 question is:
by symbiote on Sunday 31/Mar/2002, @05:39
can you copy text to the konsole yet?
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