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  KDE 3.0: A New Era In Desktop Choice
KDE Official News Posted by Dre on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @10:54
from the welcome-to-kde-3 dept.
Today the KDE Project proudly announces the release of KDE 3.0 (fully mirrored below), a release which marks a new era of choice on the desktop. Every advance opens the door to a group of new adopters, and KDE 3 is set to tear the doors asunder. In celebration of the release, the KDE League has posted the text KDE: The Complete Enterprise Desktop Solution, a work-in-progress but already something useful to show those who are considering the migration to freedom. Enough talk, time to download.

 

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Congrats and thanks to the KDE3.0 team
by Joergen Ramskov on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @13:44
Have just downloaded and I'm going to install now - w00t! :)
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Screenshot: Liquid on kde3
by Fake_oliver on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @13:45
Looks nice
Click to download attachment snap.png
337KB (345797 bytes)
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Excellent!
by Jason on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @13:45
Congratulations to everyone involved with KDE! Version 3 is great.
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mirrors
by Andy Goossens on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @13:47
Waiting for the mirrors to update...

Maybe I cheated a bit and got a jump start. I saw the announcement on CVS :-)
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Nif-tay
by Carbon on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @14:02
Is it just me or are these press releases getting longer every time? :-)

Oh well, the develoepers deserver a little ego inflation. Keep up the good work!
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Kongratulations and thanKs!
by Anonymous on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @14:16
Now, where can I get KeramiK (without having to Kompile it)? Any chance to find a binary pacKage?
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Welcome new users and thanks to NU
by Evan "JabberWokky" E. on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @14:24
I just wanted to say to wish the people about to try the modern KDE for the first time "Welcome!" I'm sure you will enjoy the experience.

I also wanted to congratulate Navindra Umanee - the Dot is weathering the traffic with flying colors, just like he said it would. A tricky thing to accomplish, and he has suceeded quite nicely. Heh - at the moment, www.kde.org is down, but the Dot is up. Go, Dot!


--
Evan
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KDE the Threedom Desktop
by random on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @14:42
I only want to say this.
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KDE3 is great
by Iuri Fiedoruk on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @14:53
I recently installed MDk 8.2 and was fighting with sound board and cdrom until today when I changed do kernel22 (no ext3, damn).
But I have to say that I loved that Mandrake made kde3 in a way you can keep kdelibs from kde 2.x, so I can still run kde 2.x apps while I can't compile them or there are no rpms.
I'm really loving mdk 8.2 with kde3 :)
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3 Cheers for KDE!!!!!
by richie123 on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @15:37
The KDE project produces some of the best software ever made, and I would just like to say thank you for all the great software they produce.
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Boy Howdy!
by Eric Nicholson on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @15:50
I'm pumped, I can't wait to get this bad boy off the ground!

Congrats you mindbogglingly swell KDE hackers.

Almost forgot, THANKS.
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I'm seriously impressed by KDE 3.0
by Johan Veenstra on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @16:03
I haven't seen a screenshot, let alone tried it, but I'm very impressed by the professional anouncement. Everything I want to know is there, and more.

Just some tidbits that struck my eye:

* KDE: The Complete Enterprise Desktop Solution
A very comprehensive summary of what you can do with KDE as an enterprise desktop, very nice.

* KDE 2 applications will work with KDE 3 if the KDE 2 libraries are present.
Takes away a lot of doubt about wether an upgrade is safe (as in will it brake my older apps)

* KDEPrint
If I read the anouncement correctly, KDEPrint is a huge step towards making the linux-desktop a reality.

* Internationalization
'49 languages' and 'And multiple font encodings and directions can be displayed in the same document' says it all.

* Konqueror plug-ins
Netscape Plug-ins(Flash, RealAudio, RealVideo), Codeweavers Plug-ins (QuickTime, ShockWave Director, Windows Media Player 6.4, Word Viewer, Excel Viewer, PowerPoint Viewer )

* Word processing
'ideal for those who need not frequently interchange MS Word documents with others, though this limitation should disappear with the release of KOffice 1.2 in mid-August'

* KDevelop
With KDE 3.0, KDevelop has benefitted from a greatly improved Qt Designer, which now supports interactive construction of the application main windows with menus and tool bars in addition to dialogs.

* Library Requirements / Options
Comprehensive set of requirements/options for those who want to compile KDE themselves and still want all possible options.

and lots more, too much to summarize actually,

congrats,

Johan V.
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No need to say anything buy...
by Jesper Juhl on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @16:04
... I love it!
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debian packages?
by victwenty on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @16:20
Anyone have the skinny on when debian packages will be available?
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KDE the only desktop
by Largo on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @16:57
first of all,

thank you for the beautifull kde 3 release. this made me switch from gnome 1/2 to kde 3. i was a contributor to gnome for a couple of years now. always followed the troll and crap others mentioned like QT or KDE sucks etc. then one day. i was playing with gnome 2 installation and i said 'jesus is this gnome ? this is what we all have waiting for ? where is a gnome 2 suitable webbrowser, where is a gnome 2 suitable email client... without having to install gnome 1 and gnome 2'.. anyways thats how may days until then looked. then one day i said myself 'hey lets try kde 3 cvs... play for 5-10 mins and then remove that again' ... but then 10 mins passed, 20 mins passed..... 3 days passed after the 4th day i removed gnome from my system and realized that i was totally wrong hooking up the gnome road. the functionality in kde 3 really impressed me. the cool framework, the cool applications, the way you can use your desktop a REAL desktop. i must say that i never used a DESKTOP under linux the way i am using kde now. its stupid if people say things like 'gnome beat kde' since its not true everyone who really tried kde will realize it. to say the truth i cant wait for kde 3.1 now.. i want that keramik theme :-) so far good work kde people. you did a really cool job and thank you for openening the eyes of a ex-gnome user/contributor. i wasted my time for sooooo long with that shit. thank you.
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Folder animations and filemanager tooltips
by Oliver Strutynski on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @20:23
Just installed KDE 3 for the first time: Very nice job! Two questions though: Is it possible to turn off folder animation in the file manager (these jumping folders on mouse-over) and can you change the delay before file tooltips are displayed?

File tooltips seem to be pretty useful, but they can be annoying if they pop up too fast (and they do for me...) Maybe I am too slow...

Again: Way to go!
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THANX !!!!!!
by thanx on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @20:40
just that !
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thanks
by harald on Wednesday 03/Apr/2002, @23:54
ein dickesdankeschЎn f№r die geleistete arbeit
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Very fine but Konqueror still crashes!
by Malcolm Agnew on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @00:08
KDE3 really is a wonderful desktop ... but
I tried one or two of the things which were not running correctly in the release canditate, i.e. read a pdf file in konqueror and then print it (this has NEVER worked in KDE1, KDE2 nor any of the beta KDE3's. Pleasant surprise: it worked.
But ... the release candidate did not produce a pdf file from a html page. So access the site (my favourite)http://news.bbc.co.uk, and try to create a pdf file - crash :-(

Restart konquror and create the pdf file from the same html page ... OK.
Click to download attachment konqueror.coredump
10KB (10248 bytes)
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Jes :))
by Capit Igloo on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @00:19
tre bonega novajxo :))
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Супер! Долго ждал!
by спелл чекер on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @01:01
Вау! Это вообще супер! Самый классный десктоп! Скоро должна выйти шапка - вот и посмотрим, что за штука такая!
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KDE 3.1
by Jan on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @01:13
Time to look forward to KDE 3.1, see what's planned: http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.1-features.html
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Dcop issues :-(
by Martijn Dekkers on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @01:25
I was running rc3 - and it was great! Now I installed the final (SuSE 7.3 packages), after removing the rc3 from my box, and it won't start. throws me out with some dcop error:

There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. The message returned by the system was:

could not read network connection list.
/root/.DCOPserver_boreas__0

Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running!

Now, this box used to run rc3 just fine, and the same thing happend to a clean install of KDE3 over KDE2 on another box.

any idea's?

cheers,

Martijn
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Dcop issues :-(
by Martijn Dekkers on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @01:28
I was running rc3 - and it was great! Now I installed the final (SuSE 7.3 packages), after removing the rc3 from my box, and it won't start. throws me out with some dcop error:

There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. The message returned by the system was:

could not read network connection list.
/root/.DCOPserver_boreas__0

Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running!

Now, this box used to run rc3 just fine, and the same thing happend to a clean install of KDE3 over KDE2 on another box.

any idea's?

cheers,

Martijn
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Leading
by Joe on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @01:51
Nice article in every way, but I wonder how you know that it's the "leading" desktop. Hard to estimate, I would think. Otherwise, brilliant article and KDE 3 looks very good.
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Conflict in RH packages
by Rob on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @05:04
Is anyone else seeing this?

Xconfigurator < 4.9.42-1 conflicts with hwdata-0.9-1

Are people ignoring and simply --force(ing) the issue? The conflict is only the matter of one file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Cards and I assume the format hasn't changed?

Apart from that, I'd just like to thank all the KDE developers and packagers(Bero in particular for the RH packages) for the best desktop(I've been running CVS on my home machine, but don't have the time/resources to compile here).
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Wow! This release rocks!
by Androgynous Howard on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @05:24
It is hard to express in words how much I like the new KDE3. I am running it since yesterday when there was that premature announcement on heise.de, and I am really, really impressed. From the little time I had to test it, it seems much more stable than the KDE2.0 release. In fact, it does not feel like a .0 release at all.

There are some minor rendering bugs (I will of course post them on bugs.kde.org), but nothing drastic such as konqueror crashing. The performance is really improved. I am using a 256 meg machine, so I can not really say how fast it is on low memory machines. But on my machine konqueror is now overall the fastest browser. It outperforms mozilla on windows and even sometimes IE on windows. Other applications also come up much faster than before.

I also really enjoy the new kmail. It looks much better, and (most important for me) it finally supports SMTP AUTH, so I can remove that horrible SMTP after POP script from my mail server. The PGP/GPG integration also looks nice, but I did not have time to test it yet.

The new printing system, especially in conjuntion with CUPS, is a much needed addition. Printing was always some kind of weak spot for the UNIX office. It does not affect me much, since I do not see the point of putting information on paper anyway :-), but some people just love printing out documents and web pages and reading them on paper. I guess that is what they mean when they say paperless office...

So to all the KDE developers reading this: You guys are cool. Seeing a project like KDE growing gives me back some faith in humanity.

regards,

A.H.

p.s. is there a way to donate to the KDE project so that the donation can be written off from the income tax (in germany)?
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Installer
by dave on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @05:43
I look forward to trying kde3, but that probably won't be until i upgrade do a distribution upgrade because i've wasted enough time sorting out rpm dependencies. In gnome i use red-carpet, and that makes installing/removing/upgrading software easy, so i have gnome2 snapshots running already. What i really want to know is if there is any similar utility planned for kde? (even just a kde channel on red-carpet would do) - otherwise i, along with most other users (excluding debian), will never upgrade kde by hand so will always be using an old version.
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Re:
by SilvereX on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @06:16
Cool! A very good work guys! This will begin a new era in UNIX desktop computing.
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Super ... Great ... Wooaaaooo
by Nassos Koyrendas on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @07:15
Everybody did a marvellous job. Congratulations!!!!!!!!
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Mandrake 8.2 aRts problems
by Namar Gonzales on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @08:10
Anyone had problems with aRts not starting? It complains about not being able to autodetect Input/output method or something like that...
I'm running this on a Compaq armada m700 with a ESS Maestro 2E sound.
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problem with kpersonalizer
by Iuri Fiedoruk on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @08:15
I installed KDE3 on mdk 8.0 with old kdelibs to keep old kde 2.x apps working.
My problem is that every time I start kde kpersonalizer starts.
How do I tell it I already have configured all?
I tryied finishing it, canceling it, but always it comes back.
Probally there is some file on .kde that should point that kpersonalizer should not start, what file is it? Does someone know?
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solaris 8 pkg's?
by swongy on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @10:02
good work guys, anyone know the schedule for the Solaris 8 binaries?
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APT repository
by Marcos Tolentino on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @12:12
Is there any APT repository to get kde 3?? (RedHat 7.2)
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unable to access programs menu. control center
by Pringles on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @15:47
After installing kde3 rpms on mandrake 8.1, i am unable to access the program
menu or the control panel..can somebody help?
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No SOUND with SuSE 7.3 x86 rpms - rc3 was good?
by Dieter N№tzel on Thursday 04/Apr/2002, @20:10
What did you get?

Apart from that KDE 3.0 is GREAT.
Especially KDEPrint.

Cheers,
Dieter
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KOffice for KDE3? Where?
by xtian0009 on Friday 05/Apr/2002, @01:41
Have someone find out where the KOffice packages for KDE3 are?
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any one noticed problems with splash screen ?
by crazycrusoe on Friday 05/Apr/2002, @03:15
after the splash screen loads(loads kde), after kde is loaded the message saying ksplash as crashed ? any one experienced this one ?
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problems with noatun , any one ?
by crazycrusoe on Friday 05/Apr/2002, @03:19
noatun does not play any songs ? if i add directories to it it just never stops quering the song names though everything is already displayed in the playlist of noatun? any one had this problem as well ?
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Thank You
by HappyKdeUser on Friday 05/Apr/2002, @04:49
Thank you for the beatiful desktop that you have created for us.
It's just beaituful.
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Still no KDE for Darwin? GNOME has you beat there
by Leo on Friday 05/Apr/2002, @22:30
Gosh, I wish I could install KDE on my machine. It's a Mac with OSX, meaning of course that it has Darwin. The move to 3.0 represented a major opportunity for a big code re-write to permit this. Doesn't seem like that's happened.

I'm not sure if the KDE Project understands the fact by year's end there will be literally millions of UNIX computers in consumers' hands. If even a small percentage of them download and use KDE it would be a tremendous coup.

I'll tell you who already has a version of its environment ready for Darwin. Your archrivals at GNOME.

Yes I know that there are "issues" , whatever they may be, that make KDE on Darwin a problem. Well I thought KDE was supposed to be *the* GUI for UNIX.

Not solving a problem that prevents you from being used on what is by far the most popular consumer UNIX out there seems like a boneheaded move.
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Poor quality of SuSE rpms :(
by me on Saturday 06/Apr/2002, @01:05
I found two IMO grave problems with the SuSE 7.2 i386 packages:


No way to get AA work.
Going back to an older selfcompiled qt302, AA worked.
I use X420 upgraded by the suse 72 rpms.


kdeaddons is missing. Is that political or did they simply forget it?
It was already missing in their -rc3-rpms
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Mandrake RPMs
by 56k modem user on Saturday 06/Apr/2002, @01:56
Feature list is really impressive, but why are mdk RPMs about twice as
big than others (redhat for instance)? It'll take all day to download!
Are there more programs and stuff, or does it perhaps have something to do
with objprelink of something? Or are they just badly (or better) compiled?
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Xrender?
by Stof on Saturday 06/Apr/2002, @03:14
KDE 3 looks very cool! Does it use Xrender for transparency and other rendering?
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For all you speed freaks out there...
by Bryan Feeney on Saturday 06/Apr/2002, @03:44
...Texstar has started rolling his Mandrake RPMs (these tend to be highly optimised, using things like objprelink). The i586 batch are out, I'd imagine the i686 ones will be there soon. The URL is http://www.pclinuxonline.com/. Even if you've downloaded them, you should still check it out, it's a great site.

As for the question above about Mandrake RPMs being twice the size of Redhat ones, it sounds like the Mandrake ones have debugging info compiled in. And for those of you who look at your /usr and shudder these days, the Mandrake RPMS install into /opt/kde3. Cool (though I could never understand why the FHS people didn't simply create a /usr/kde and a /usr/gnome to complement /usr/X11R6 - it make perfect sense given the size of the projects).
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For all you speed freaks out there...
by Bryan Feeney on Saturday 06/Apr/2002, @03:48
...Texstar has started rolling his Mandrake RPMs (these tend to be highly optimised, using things like objprelink). The i586 batch are out, I'd imagine the i686 ones will be there soon. The URL is http://www.pclinuxonline.com/. Even if you've downloaded them, you should still check it out, it's a great site. The links to the FTP site with the RPMs is on the middle of the left hand bar (there's two sites, ibiblio and eastwind).

As for the question above about Mandrake RPMs being twice the size of Redhat ones, it sounds like the Mandrake ones have debugging info compiled in. And for those of you who look at your /usr and shudder these days, the Mandrake RPMS install into /opt/kde3. Cool (though I could never understand why the FHS people didn't simply create a /usr/kde and a /usr/gnome to complement /usr/X11R6 - it make perfect sense given the size of the projects).
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RH 7x and libcrypto/libssl
by jack on Saturday 06/Apr/2002, @05:54
I've downloaded the RedHat rpms for KDE3 but I get dependency errors for libcrypto.so.2 and libssl.so.2. i've searched rpmfind.net for them, but no luck. Can anyone tell me where to find them?

I've compiled RC3 and it works just fine, very impressive, but I don't feel like spending a whole day to compile the source code for KDE3. Call me lazy, but there you have it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
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KDE 3.0 wont work under Mandrake 8.1.
by Maarten Rommerts on Saturday 06/Apr/2002, @06:41
Guys, I've installed KDE 3.0 on a clean mandrake 8.1 system. I've installed it beside KDE 2.2.1 using the madrake 8.1 RPM's from the KDE-website. During the installation I had to force a few processed, but afted that the packagemanager indicated that the program was installed succesfull.

However, I can't use both KDE 3.0 and 2.2.1 when logging in (graphical mode) as a normal user. When running as root I can only use 2.2.1 (so far with no problems), even if I select KDE 3.0 when logging in.

Note: I am a low-technical linuxuser and most of my problems with Linux are with the installation of programs. Wether they are tarballs,RPM'S or something else. I hope the future installations get more standard and just as easy as onder Windows.

Anyway, I hope to run this cool desktop very soon. Please help me to make this possible!
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HELP! Fail with Redhat 7.2
by Markus Biedermann on Saturday 06/Apr/2002, @16:29
Hi,
I tried installing like the readme for the rh packages says:

"To remove the old packages and install the new ones, run:

cd /where/you/downloaded/the/KDE3/RPMS
rpm -e `rpm -qa |egrep ^kde`
rpm -Uvh *rpm"

I already got dependencies errors with removing the old packages, so I choose --nodeps.
Same with installing the new ones. I just thought "oh well, there was a lot in the ftp-archive, it will be included".

But now, Redhat won't let me choose KDE from the login manager.
What can I do to get it started?
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Problems with Mandrake 8.2
by Bojan on Monday 08/Apr/2002, @08:30
I installed KDE 3.0 on a fresh Mandrake 8.2 installation using rpm -Uvh commands. First I
installed qt3, then qt3-devel (since I use it for development). Here it reported some failed
dependencies, which I all resolved except one - this one was MySQL-devel something. I thought
that this failed dependency should not interfere with KDE, so I used --nodeps option to install
qt3-devel and then other packages were installed without problems. However, when I started
kde, all kde applications (except KOffice) have gone from the K menu, and even KWord
and other KOffice applications failed to start (they reported some unknown simbol in
qt library, when started from konsole). Also, some application that I am currently involved with,
it uses hasFocus() function from QWidget, and it turned out that hasFocus() always returned
0, no matter if the widget had focus or not. It seems like a Qt related problem, but can anyone
have any idea what might have caused all these problems?
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Deleting messages from POP3 message headers
by Andy Marchewka on Monday 08/Apr/2002, @10:15
Thanks! This has got to be considered a killer feature for an email client. It seems it was implemented to deal with unsolicited huge downloads, but I get boat-loads of spam (*many* unsolicited messages, often small), so I use it to avoid the spam. I also find it useful for lists that I have subscribed to, to avoid long discussion threads that I am not interested in.

I regularly delete enough messages by header alone to make this extra step faster than first downloading, and then deleting. I also prefer to screen messages before I "allow them into" my inbox.

Can anyone tell me whether I can get the raw email address to display in the "Sender" column, rather than the friendlier version of the sender's name?

Thanks again for this feature!
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Great Stuff - Request One Additional Feature
by Carl on Monday 08/Apr/2002, @17:01
The install of KDE 3.0 went without issue on my FreeBSD 4.5-Stable box. I like what I see.

I love the blocking of popups in Konqueror. I was wondering if anyone has thought of adding a feature to prevent websites from altering the window size of Konqueror? This is one of my personal pet peeves.

Great job guys...
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Arabic support!
by Faris on Monday 08/Apr/2002, @19:16
Hi guys,

Well this time KDE really ROCKS :) although there are still some few bugs around (the splash screen crashes for example!!) ..

but the main issue for me now is the Arabic support .. I thought that I'll be finally able to type in Arabic .. I tried to change the Layouts . I chose the Arabic one , and then switch the language from the Language flag on the Panel ..
But still I couldn't type in Arabic (I was using Kword and Kate) .. I noticed that some other similar languages such as Hebrew work fine !!!

Any idea how to solve this ??????

oh I was about to forget :) I'm using a Pentium II (400) machine loaded with Redhat 7.2 ..

thanx for You KDE people ..
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noatun doesn't play .dat files :(
by Faris on Monday 08/Apr/2002, @19:22
Hi Guys,
I have a problem with noatun .. it doesn't run .dat files ! .. all the movies around me have this format ..
this is a sad situation because everytime I want to watch a movie I need to switch to Window$ :(

any help ????
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Need help with KDM!
by Cihl on Tuesday 09/Apr/2002, @02:13
Hi guys. I'm having a problem with my KDE3 install on SuSE 7.2.

KDM isn't working properly. I changed /etc/init.d/xdm to point to /opt/kde3. KDM will start, but it looks really dull, with a grey background 'n stuff. I can login to a 'default' and 'failsafe' session. I tried default, and it just gives me a yellow xterm. I can get into KDE3 with the startkde-command (nice!), though, but that's clumsy and not the way i want it.

I've tried configuring KDM from the menu in KDE3 itself, but that doesn't seem to work/help at all. How do i configure KDM (from the command-line if necessary)? (Somehow KDM from KDE2 doesn't work well anymore, either)
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