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  KDE on Cygwin: 2.2.2 Beta 1 Release Available
KDE on Unix and other platforms Posted by binner on Sunday 19/May/2002, @12:54
from the resistance-is-futile dept.
The KDE on Cygwin project, the project to port Qt and KDE to Windows, has announced the first beta release of KDE 2.2.2 for Cygwin and Cygwin/XFree86. At the moment they offer kdelibs and kdebase for download but it seems we can expect other packages like kdegames, kdepim and kdevelop in near future too.


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KDE in windows is really Kool
by Koncerned User on Sunday 19/May/2002, @20:16
Kongratulations to the developers, KDE on windows is a very kool.
Konsider all the kool things you kan do when windows and kde apps koexist.
When the port is komplete, you kould run koffice right next to mikrosoft office and kopy and paste between them.
I kould finally run my favorite kalendaring software on windows.
Kreative developers will be able to kombine windows koding tools with kdevelop to quikkly kreate kool kode.
But I am koncerned this will make people use mikrosoft more.
Why konvert to linux when all the kde stuff is available on your mikrosoft os?
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Screenshots
by Anonymous on Monday 20/May/2002, @00:58
http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/kde2.php#Screenshots - impressive!
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XFree ?
by Julien Olivier on Monday 20/May/2002, @01:19
Hi

I don't understand something:

Why does it need an X server for it to work on Windows ?
I mean why not just use QT for Windows to compile KDE ? Is it a legal problem or a technical one ?
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Uh uh kool uh
by HB on Monday 20/May/2002, @03:15
Yeah. It's cool... but who cares ? That not I don't want kde on windows, I just don't want windows - until it's open sourced of course. These people should work on koffice to push it at the required level instead of wasting their time (IMHO, they don't what they want...).
Some tell that "it would ease the migration later... blah blah". It's bullshit: it won't show really what linux can do and just make people keep windows. Again, what gnu/linux should do is improve until it's really superior to other os/software. Then, the choice _will_ be obvious. And meanwhile, don't bother marketing or such: again, when it will be really superior (and I found the KDE framework full of potential for evolution, next step IMHO = full DBMS integration + at least partial switch to functional programming with strong typing in key components), it'll be the truth.
Believe me, boys and girls.
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Performance
by Stof on Monday 20/May/2002, @10:00
How's Windows KDE's performance compared to Linux KDE?
Is it faster or much slower?
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DCOPServer could not be started
by Andy M on Thursday 30/May/2002, @08:54
Is anyone else having a problem starting the DCOP Server?

While the KDE Splash Screen is flashing the, "Setting up interprocess communication" icon, I look at the Cygwin bash window that I type "startx" from, and see:

kdeinit: Launched DCOPServer, pid = 562 result = 0
_KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
iceauth: creating new authority file /cygdrive/c/.ICEauthority
DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
DCOPServer self-test failed.
kdeinit: DCOPServer could not be started, aborting.
kdeinit: launch -> dcopserver --nosid

This repeats 2 more times, then the X window shows a dialog that says, "There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. The message returned by the system was: Could not read network connection list. /cygwin/c/.DCOPserver_<machinename>_-0. Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running!". Click on OK, and the X window shuts down.

I can start X with another window manager, but I can't run most KDE applications (Konsole fights with this problem, but then starts up, anyway).

Thanks for any help,
- Andy
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Re: complainers
by Joshua Lokken on Friday 02/Aug/2002, @16:10
This is addressed to those who are complaining that KDE/Cygwin is preventing 'Windows users' from 'converting' to *NIX: Do you really think that the people trying Cygwin are 'Windows users', or folks who use *NIX whenever possible, but are constrained to a Windows box at work, etc.? The latter, I think, for the most part. Also, what do you think the rate is at which people are 'converting to *NIX?' Probably not very high. In fact, mr./mrs. *NIX user, I would bet you have a Windows box available most of the time, don't you now? It's just not cut-and-dried. I was introduced to PCs about 2 years ago, and placed in front of a WinNT box. Not everyone's dream, right? A couple of months later, we upgraded to Win2k, and then I decided to check out *NIX. I got a copy of FreeBSDs latest release, and dove in. I now use *NIX and Windows at work and at home. Anyway, long story short, while I prefer FreeBSD to the Microsoft OSs I've used, I would bet my story is alot more 'common' than you might think. People use what gets the job done. No one strictly buys Ford or Chevy [and nothing else] anymore.

KDE Cygwin is a 'good idea.'


Thanks,

Joshua Lokken
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KDE/QT on Microsoft Windows
by Marty Chapman on Thursday 08/Aug/2002, @23:25
I am very new to the Open Source arena, however, I know a good thing when I see it. My honest feeling is that all the bashers on porting KDE to Windows are not thinking clearly. They just have some unresolved issues and hatred toward Microsoft. The truth be told, the more Unix/Linux like OS/Applications ported to Microsoft Windows proves its power and flexibility, though somewhat still in its infancy.

KDE on Cygwin will be very rewarding in the years to come. Free Software, I believe, is slowly gaining wide acceptance in areas where Microsoft compatible applications are the standard. How wide spread is this? I can't say. However, KDE on Cygwin has/will open many opportunities for KDE application software developed under the Free Software umbrella. As more Free Software applications become more stable, you can be sure Microsoft applications will still exist and used by many, but will slowly be overlooked more and more when the price of productivity applications is the driving force.

KDE on Cygwin will/is the portal by which Free Software will become common place. Microsoft's (and its employees) only advantage is it had a head start on the Free Software community by many years, however, the Free Software advantage will be that of free software supporters from around the globe.

=>TTFN<=
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Good Idea, but a bit premature
by Arkain on Monday 23/Dec/2002, @10:07
It's a good idea to have GNU/Linux (since most of the tools are gnu) tools available for linux. They offer a few more options in the face of a closed, high-priced market to those of us on tight budget. To that end, I can definitely understand and appreciate the intentions. My one concern about this is that this maneuver may be bit premature. I can't help but wonder how the good but sometimes buggy apps that I love to use in linux will react with Windows when they crash. Think about it. An application that's 70% running on a developing environment that's still very much under construction, all on top of an operating system that at its most stable still acts as though it's ony 85% complete and not application fault tolerant; to me, that's a scarey thought.

IMHO, KDE developers should focus on making existing applications as useful and as stable as possible on LINUX before attempting to port them onto the unstable M$ OS. Consider the implications for a moment. If anything about the use of this project becomes problematic, that gives Microsoft supporters ammo with which to attack Linux, allowing them the opportunity to claim that if it's not stable under Windows, then it's not stable under Linux. This doesn't need to be true for them to claim it and for those considering a transition to Linux to believe it.
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I know this sounds stupid but how do you work it?
by Brian on Friday 12/Dec/2003, @00:14
i know kde but i don't know how to install linux programs on cygwin. i have redhat 9 and am getting fedora soon but i don't have anywhere to put them so i'm left with cygwin.
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