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by HB on Monday 20/May/2002, @03:15

Yeah. It's cool... but who cares ? That not I don't want kde on windows, I just don't want windows - until it's open sourced of course. These people should work on koffice to push it at the required level instead of wasting their time (IMHO, they don't what they want...).
Some tell that "it would ease the migration later... blah blah". It's bullshit: it won't show really what linux can do and just make people keep windows. Again, what gnu/linux should do is improve until it's really superior to other os/software. Then, the choice _will_ be obvious. And meanwhile, don't bother marketing or such: again, when it will be really superior (and I found the KDE framework full of potential for evolution, next step IMHO = full DBMS integration + at least partial switch to functional programming with strong typing in key components), it'll be the truth.
Believe me, boys and girls.

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by Bryan Feeney on Monday 20/May/2002, @07:40

There's two reasons why this is beneficial. First it provides an easy non-destructive way for a windows user to experience the Linux desktop. Most people balk at the idea of partitioning their disk and installing a completely new operating system on it. This gives them a reason to give it a go.

Secondly, there is work on a rootless windows version of X - this would allow KDE applications to operate transparently alongside Windows applications, which would allow more people to try them out, and, again give them more incentive to go for the whole thing.

Finally, why on earth should anyone have to do anything for a good reason? If you've got an itch, scratch it and be proud ;-)

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by Andy Wingo on Monday 20/May/2002, @12:37

I agree. Although personally it's difficult to get beyond the feeling of 'wasting time' on the win32 port, I also remember trying out litestep (an afterstep clone for windows) five years ago on my w95 box. It was like a gateway drug, I've been linux-only for the last four years :-))

cheers, wingo.

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by Stof on Monday 20/May/2002, @14:52

I think KDE's slowness on Windows can only hurt KDE's image. We all know most Windows users are not that smart (and that's an understatement). When they notice KDE's slowness, they will only think "KDE is slow, KDE is Linux software, so Linux must suck."

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Re: Uh uh kool uh
by ac on Monday 20/May/2002, @16:08

What about GNOME's general suckiness? Could that hurt KDE's image? I think it's unfair too.

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by Ranger Rick on Tuesday 21/May/2002, @13:42

Yeah, rootless will make this pretty usable -- it's great on OSX (http://www.befunk.com/~ranger/osx-kde/).

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KDE for OSX [Re: Uh uh kool uh]
by Anonymous on Tuesday 21/May/2002, @20:53

Great to hear you make big progress. And nice shots!

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by J on Wednesday 22/May/2002, @06:53

Right. Additionally, the reason I would have is a little more contained within developer circles. Porting any software to another disparate operating system, such as the win32 platform, uncovers a lot of weaknesses that, when found and fixed, can make it run even faster and smoother on all platforms. For example, Habacker found that Unix Domain Sockets were heavily used and relied on for inter-process communication. These discoveries and more usually don't come without a some-what reworked port of a software package by a different set of people. Whether something is learned and applied to the HEAD branch ... well, good luck to Habacker and team!

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Open source software
by Ian on Tuesday 21/May/2002, @05:40

If KDE was a company, and you could move around people at will then you could argue that (though I still think you'd be wrong.) As it is, people are scratching their itch, which happens not be a office suite for KDE (or at least not their biggest of more interesting itch, if we take the analogy too far).

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by Ralf Habacker on Wednesday 22/May/2002, @01:13

What about companies IT rules ? Changing os isn't possible for bigger companies (expect you are the person who defines this rules), but introducing a new application by an administrator is quite easier.

So the strategy is to introduce some kde apps for specific needs and to extend the base of installed kde apps.

One day, it may be possible to delete explorer and set konqueror/kdesktop/kicker as default browser/desktop/... and than swithing the "backend" to another os like linux is not such a big task like it is now.

Regards
Ralf

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