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Re: and no RedHat packages ?
by Perra on Thursday 23/May/2002, @04:42

Just start to compile from source instead. It is not hard at all and then you can always update the source once a bugfixes keep coming in.

http://www.kde.org/anoncvs.html

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Re: and no RedHat packages ?
by Janne on Thursday 23/May/2002, @06:12

"Just start to compile from source instead. It is not hard at all and then you can always update the source once a bugfixes keep coming in."

Speaking of bugs... Why does the number of bugs seem to get bigger and bigger:

http://bugs.kde.org/bugscount.txt

I assume that those bugs are removed from the list once a fix is submitted to CVS. But the number of bugs in KDE keeps on increasing.

Some statistics:

Bugs
0317: 4533
0523 (today): 4823

Of those

Crash
0317: 183
0523: 579(!)

Grave
0317: 22
0523: 68(!)

The amount of normal bugs has been reduced (from 4328 to 4176), but they are rising again. Lowest number was in 0331 (3524), and it has gone up since.

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Re: and no RedHat packages ?
by Anonymous on Thursday 23/May/2002, @07:29

> Speaking of bugs... Why does the number of bugs seem to get bigger and bigger:

That`s a natural thing: More users, more bug reports. And most bugs get more than one report, most noticeable with khtml, and it needs much work to identify duplicates. What I found interesting when reading http://www.linux.org.uk/~telsa/Trips/Talks/g3-bugzilla.html is that Gnome "receives one hundred to three hundred bugs a day." Make your own conclusion if there are more (native english-speaking) users, automated crash reports(?) or just more bugs. Anyway don`t wonder they can close up to 300 bug reports between every Beta release.

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Re: and no RedHat packages ?
by Aaron J. Seigo on Thursday 23/May/2002, @07:43

1) more users mean more bugs found and more reports made on the same bugs
2) more code means more bugs to be found (looks at how much more there is in kde now than there was in the kde1 days)
3) developers can use a hand closing duplicates and closing non-reproducable bugs
4) all the same, the number of bugs isn't growing out of control and KDE remains very stable

the fact that the number of bug reports (including wishlist items) is growing is a sign that kde itself is growing.

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Re: and no RedHat packages ?
by Carsten Pfeiffer on Thursday 23/May/2002, @16:20

The number of reports with "crash"-severity is also raising due to the endless hours spent by people like Stephan Binner, wading through the reports and categorizing them.

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Re: and no RedHat packages ?
by Perra on Friday 24/May/2002, @00:30

There was some idea a while back that after some time after an updated release a mail would be sent to the person (for each unclosed bug report) that sent the bugreport asking him if it has been fixed.

Ofcourse a mail with all bugs reported by the user would be sent. If he never replies to the mail the reports will be closed after a certain amount of time.

This would kill some of the very old and hopefully not ligitimate bugs.

P

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Re: and no RedHat packages ?
by loopkin on Thursday 23/May/2002, @06:20

yep, i know that, and i actually do it for some apps (kwintv, kyim, ...). but then, if i start to do it for such a big thing as KDE, why use a distro and not LFS ?
moreover, my comp is an old Celeron 450 (overclocked), and it takes hours to compile anything on it, so, for the whole KDE, i have the feeling it'll die ;-)
i think the only option for me is switching the distro. i'm considering to do it more and more....

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Re: and no RedHat packages ?
by Morty on Thursday 23/May/2002, @07:29

With my old Duches 400 (No overclocking 398 to be exact) I used about 24hrs
on the base packages + network and multimedia (3.0 beta 2 or 3). The bad one
is Qt on 6-7 hrs. You can save some time (several hrs) compiling Qt without tutorials and example code :)

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