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Re: Nice awards...
by Spark on Tuesday 30/Jul/2002, @08:07

Those screenshots are _not_ how the actual fileselector will look like, they are just early concepts of volunteers. There is a lot of talk about it and many ideas are shared. You can be sure though, that the result won't be packed with features and stuff. While this looks cool, sometimes the "rudimentary" stuff is much faster to use. I don't think that the fileselector should be more complicated than the actual filemanager.

As for browsers and such, it's fine if Konqueror suits you best.
Personally I prefer Galeon because of it's browser-centric interface and the excellent Gecko engine. RAM usage is indeed quite high so this might be a deciding point for people low on RAM or just picky about it. I don't think there is a point in arguing about which one is the best but both can certainly do the job.

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Konqueror and Mozilla [Re: Nice awards...]
by Vadim Plessky on Tuesday 30/Jul/2002, @23:27

Galeon indeed looks like very interesting. I lik eit simple interface and do not miss Mozilla's XUL...
Some major concerns for me about Mozilla:
* printing (which is unfortunately sucks)
Note that I need to print *in Cyrillic*, and Mozilla/OpenOffice/Gnome are far behind KDE in this respect
* missing AA, font installation mechanism is obviously missing as well
* slow startup/exit speed (but I already mentioned this)

Conformance to W3C standards is quite good in recent Mozilla builds, so there is no point to complain here.

As about Gecko vs. Konqueror - I believe we should compare Gecko with KHTML.
KHTML itself is very lightweight, and I would love if someone with make XUL browser based on KHTML, or GTK2-based browser based on KHTML (like Galeon is based on Gecko)

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Re: Konqueror and Mozilla [Re: Nice awards...]
by Spark on Wednesday 31/Jul/2002, @16:34

Hmm printing in cyrillic should get better with Pango and such but I don't know, I don't own a printer.
AA will be there soon when the Gtk2 port and Galeon are ready.
Slow startup speed isn't really a concern anymore, Galeon starts pretty fast and when it's loaded once, subsequent loads are _extremely_ fast.
Exit time is definetly fast. =)

As for Gtk2 based KHTML browser, this would be a major hassle, most probably much more difficult than a Gecko based Gtk browser and it would feel less integrated. So there is no real point not just a Qt based KHTML browser (like Konqueror or Konq-embedded).

Also buying new 64MB of RAM would be much cheaper than doing all the work just to get a browser that is a little bit lower on RAM usage. =)

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Re: Konqueror and Mozilla [Re: Nice awards...]
by Anon Man on Wednesday 31/Jul/2002, @21:49

Hi Vadim - about AA. New GTK2 versions of Galeon (yes they exist :) are very speedy.

On top of that AA is *well* supported.

Just an FYI

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