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How about some support for Mono's ASP.NET? :-)
by Adam Treat on Wednesday 11/Sep/2002, @13:27

Just floating the question to see if any of the current Quanta developers would be interested in extensions for Mono's ASP.Net when it's ready. Any takers?

Cheers,

Adam

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Re: How about some support for Mono's ASP.NET? :-)
by Eric Laffoon on Wednesday 11/Sep/2002, @14:56

Hi Adam, I've had at least one person offering to help with ASP.NET but from your post I have to assume those are not Mono. I'm the guy to ask. The short answer is yes. the long answer is let's talk about it. I will either look to hook this up with someone expressing a developer interest to us in this area or help you and your people to easily implement it.

The point again is that Quanta 3.0 will be completely user extensible for tagging and scripting languages with no more than some XML editing. In some cases the majority of this can be generated from docs with a Perl script. (That's how we went from 3 tags for PHP to over 2,660 in one day.) At this time this will get you document structure tree nodes, auto-completion and tag dialogs. In the future more benefits will be realized from the same or less effort.

Regards
Eric Laffoon

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Re: How about some support for Mono's ASP.NET? :-)
by Adam Treat on Wednesday 11/Sep/2002, @15:25

That is awesome Eric. I have to say, I think you have a killer app on your hands. Like I said, I use Quanta right now for designing pages and it is fantastic.

The ASP.NET support will come, I'm sure. Either I will provide it or another eager developer will get to it eventually. There is some real excitement among the Ximian/Mono folks over the implementation of ASP.NET.

I would also strongly advocate for the WYSIWYG support. With a good WYSIWYG I believe you will have quite a large web developer interest on your hands :-)

Joseph from the Kate team is working on providing DCOP bindings for Qt# and Quanta uses Kate so perhaps Quanta will have support for C# plugins soon... The future is wide open :-)

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Re: How about some support for Mono's ASP.NET? :-)
by Eric Laffoon on Wednesday 11/Sep/2002, @16:29

> I would also strongly advocate for the WYSIWYG support. With a good WYSIWYG I believe you will have quite a large web developer interest on your hands :-)

I guess you read the other responses... WYSIWYG will come. However we are approaching it from a code perspective rather than a "you only want to point and click because you don't know anything" perspective. I have not heard anyone describe the architectural steps we're taking. With sufficient community involvement Quanta has the opportunity to become a juggernaught of an application that does anything and everything related to web work so well it would be hard to offer a proprietary alternative. That's my goal. Because of that it has to have whatever you use available to plug in.

> Joseph from the Kate team is working on providing DCOP bindings for Qt# and Quanta uses Kate so perhaps Quanta will have support for C# plugins soon... The future is wide open :-)

Our goals for 3.1 and 3.2 include the most extensive DCOP implementation imaginable. The reason for this is the supplemental application one of our developers, Marc Britton, is working on called Kommander. What it does is builds dialogs in a stripped down QT Designer with special widgets (essentially prepped KDE widgets) which runs from the ui file via an executor program. It will speak DCOP and also allow for any scripting language that runs in your shell. You may not even be aware Quanta has this scripting capability but you will find it in the configure actions menu. We took the inspiration for this from Kaptain, which builds dialogs from grammers. I used Kaptain to creat custom dialogs for PHP classes to enable me to handle complex 500-700 line data management classes building objects and method statements with point and click simplicity.

While Quanta 3.1 (possibly 3.0) should provide auto-completion for your linked local libraries and classes from the file you are working on the addition of the dialog builder will be nice too, allowing you to structure tasks with tabbed dialogs or create wizards and exchange information and insturctions in real time via DCOP.

Our goal is nothing less than pushing the strengths of good design decsions, KDE and OSS to the point where it becomes a tool of choice among serious developers. I think Mono's ASP.NET would be a very logical part of that puzzle. I'm looking forward trying it out.

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Re: How about some support for Mono's ASP.NET? :-)
by Adam Treat on Wednesday 11/Sep/2002, @15:15

Ok, after fully reading the posts above I've come to a new perspective on my question.

Eric, let me say that I would hope Quanta supports Mono's ASP.NET in the future. I use Quanta for creation of my personel pages as well as maintaining http://qtcsharp.sf.net.

With that said, I don't know if I'll have the time to contribute this XML dialect to Quanta anytime soon. I am simply to busy with other OS/FS projects including Qt#, KDE# and Mono. I will try, but I can't promise any time right now.

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