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Re: will all bugs be fixed for the 3.1 release ?
by Anonymous on Wednesday 18/Sep/2002, @10:45
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> I prefer waiting for a stable KDE than using a buggy one.
Nobody force you to use a version, which you consider as unstable.
> otherwise, KDE will end up having thousands of bugs.
KDE has thousands of bugs just now. Quick, dump the version you use!
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Re: will all bugs be fixed for the 3.1 release ?
by Christian Parpart on Thursday 19/Sep/2002, @08:48
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Even M$ Windows has tons of bugs, they're just unknown or hidden. GNOME has bugs, everything has. The question is, how critical are they. I'm working with KDE's CVS HEAD version and it's pretty stable, so: even a desktop having such alot of bugs can be stable anyway ;)
Greets,
Christian Parpart.
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Re: will all bugs be fixed for the 3.1 release ?
by Scott Manson on Thursday 19/Sep/2002, @17:37
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So your company only releases bug-free code? Sounds like you're living in Never-Never Land. No software is "free from bugs". If you weigh the advantages of releasing code that isn't terribly bug free with the advantage that if you release a "buggy" version you might find MORE bugs than all your in-house testing would find in an almost infinite time. You are limited to what hardware you have in-house as opposed to a "cheap" (I mean a wide variety of machines/hardware that you haven't paid for) supply of different environments that could prove that your "bug-free" program is not what you think it is.
Anyone who says that their program is bug-free or even using your words "critical,high and medium known bugs" is either a fool or an idiot.
Warning
<FLAME BAIT>
Which one does you or your company fall into?
</FLAME BAIT>
Sometimes it might be advantagous to release "buggy software" in order to get a wider environment for testing purposes or even feedback about how some similar problem was solved or a work a round was discovered that the developers were confident that couldn't happen.
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Re: will all bugs be fixed for the 3.1 release ?
by frederic on Friday 20/Sep/2002, @06:39
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Read carefully before you say my colleagues and I are a bunch of fool or idiot, so I repeat again : the company do not release software with KNOWN bugs, obviously, there are some hidden bugs !!! Customers have access to our bug tracking system (TestTrack), so one can't lie about the number of KNOWN bugs.
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Re: will all bugs be fixed for the 3.1 release ?
by Scott Wheeler on Saturday 21/Sep/2002, @07:44
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It's a constant cycle. Developers fix bugs. Users report them. All of the bugs will never be closed unless users stop reporting them for a few months (which would be bad).
It's for all practical purposes impossible to not have open bugs with a huge user base and a public code repository. What if 20 bugs are reported on the day of the release, wait? Until when? What if during that time new bugs are introduced into CVS and reported? What then?
The release schedule is the only way around this. We try to go in phases: add features several months before the release and try to fix things in the months before the release.
Your previous statments seem to indicate that you're a programmer; start digging through the (KDE) bugs database and fixing things then! If you want to see KDE released with as few bugs as possible, then start helping!
Bugs don't get magically fixed. They take time to sort through and fix.
And just in case you're not satified, don't worry we won't don't expect you to pay a penny for it. ;-)
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