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I leave KDE.
by Martin Behrens on Thursday 19/Sep/2002, @18:40

Amen, KDE is doomed. In the past I've seen to much GNOME shit moving to KDE. It's time for me switching over to GNOME completely then. Goodbye people it was really nice with you but seems that GNOME is starting to dominating everywhere. I can't belive this, it started 1 year after KDE and now KDE people is using their code all overwhere.

- Xfree CVS has a shitload of GNOME stuff now (libxml2, pkgconfig, xcoursors, fontconfig, xft2) all done by GNOME people such as Daniel Vaillant, Keith Packard, Havoc Pennington.
- KDE is using GNOME libraries now, like libxml2, libxslt, libart_lgpl and librsvg
- Now KDE uses that shitty Bugzilla which is a nightmare to use. Which requires me to create another fucking account only to post some fucking bugs. As if I don't have enough accounts already.

I don't understand why KDE is starting to suck so much. I'm totally disapointed.

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Funny.
by Datschge on Thursday 19/Sep/2002, @19:19

Moving to GNOME because it's shit? And where are the people complaining that every wheel gets reinvented again and again?

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Re: I leave KDE.
by fault on Thursday 19/Sep/2002, @21:24

> GNOME people such as Daniel Vaillant, Keith Packard, Havoc Pennington.

Keith Packard isn't a gnome "person" exactly. He's a XFree86 "person".

I'm not sure who Daniel Vaillant is, but if you mean Daniel Veillard, the author of libxml(2), he has nothing to do with libxml(2) being in xfreecvs. It was imported by Keith Packard as a dependancy to pkg/fontconfig. It's a damn good XML library. It's probably the best free/open one. It's a lot better than expat, at least.

> KDE is using GNOME libraries now, like libxml2, libxslt, libart_lgpl and librsvg

> Now KDE uses that shitty Bugzilla which is a nightmare to use.

Oh god. Once again, Bugzilla has nothing to do with GNOME! GNOME uses it. That's all. KDE is in the same position with Bugzilla as GNOME is. GNOME used debbugs until several years ago (late 2000 I beleive) like KDE did until very recently.

Bugzilla is tied to Mozilla, not anything else. Again, Bugzilla is one of the best free/open bug reporting/collecting packages available. It's definatly the most customizable. I agree that it has usablility problems in the default configurations, but it is very configurable. Usability is as good as the interfaces to bugzilla made.

> KDE is using GNOME libraries now, like libxml2, libxslt, libart_lgpl and librsvg

Because perhaps it saves in programming time? The libraries you mentioned are not tied architecturally in any way to GNOME, and they are all great libraries. Why shouldn't KDE use them?

I think you have a bad case of the "Not Invented Here" (NIH) Syndrome.

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Re: I leave KDE.
by Maarten Rommerts on Friday 20/Sep/2002, @12:44

Come on man! Don't be so foolish! It is a good case if GNOME and KDE start working together, instead of only looking inside our own minds. Please remeber that the true power of Linux (and all open-source) is collaboration and sharing of code.

If KDE and GNOME want to develop some stuff (like libarys) together, then we can same time, improve quality, improve intergration and make a stand against fragmention. And by tis I mean an overwelmig amount of all sort of diffent protocools, technologies, standards, toolkits, ect etc. Does this make things better? No! It is better to develop a few but realy good pieces of sotware, that intergrates and works well together.

Please, next time look a bit further and think about the real reason of Linux's power.....Colaboration and working tohether.

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Re: I leave KDE.
by Klaus Mertelz on Monday 30/Sep/2002, @01:33

Ok, I'm not sure any more whether this guy is joking or not. In any case, using as much code as you can from others is A Good Thing. As long as KDE is faster than Gnome, and has better integrated applications, I will use it. Think of it like that: If people not directly working for KDE (e.g. the Gnome Team) produce 75% of KDE's code, the KDE team can concentrate more on the 25% that make the actual user experience of KDE.

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