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Re: kroupware
by Evan "JabberWokky" E. on Tuesday 24/Sep/2002, @14:25
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I was unaware that "Kroupware" is a german word. I apologize.
(I did know that Konsole is german, and I simply didn't get into it on Slashdot, where a favored troll technique is to bash countries.)
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Re: kroupware
by Joerg Gastner on Tuesday 24/Sep/2002, @14:46
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No need to apologize. Kroupware is not a german word. Quite on the contrary, it is a "cute" use of the letter "K" in an english word. I agree with you on the issue of "Kroupware" being "cute" (Actually I think it is worse).
My comment was in reply to to your Slashdot rant which began with the words "(Talking about Foresight as a name)"
"Foresight" is not a german word. :)
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Re: kroupware
by Evan "JabberWokky" E. on Tuesday 24/Sep/2002, @15:04
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As I said, intentionally incorrect words are the only thing that sometimes irk me. K- as a prefix is fine (It's functionally similar to MS, Open Office or Toyota as a prefix, a la MS Word, Open Office Writer, or Toyota Camry). It simply indicates the class of application (it's a GUI app that uses KDE libraries). K as an incidental letter (a la Konsole, Kicker) or part of an acronym (KUPS, KIM) are also fine. And, as I say earlier, I think that applications that fit into the first category (using K to indicate their class), should be listed on the Kicker menu without the K, as just Mail, Paint and Thesaurus, just as the common way to refer to my other examples drops the prefix (Word, Writer, Camry).
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Re: kroupware
by Joerg Gastner on Tuesday 24/Sep/2002, @15:30
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You put it into the right words. I agree with you. Especially with the Mail, Paint and Thesaurus stuff that should be showing up in Kicker/Kmenu in a way that users can relate to.
But keep in mind that something that seems intentionally incorrect at first glance might come from a a language where it makes perfect sense.
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Include specific names
by Andrea on Thursday 26/Sep/2002, @06:01
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I'm trying to push the adoption of Linux desktops, and I find that there are some mistakes:
- You can't put something like "Browser" to identify Konqueror, because it brokes the conection with the help manuals and with the sites.
I had a personal experience with this: I accidentally shut down Kicker. But this doesn't have a visible name, and I tried to find "Panel", and I couldn't. After some searching, I could figure that this was the app called Kicker on other parts, and I executed it.
So, I sugest don't give up individual and unique names, you can use "Konqueror browser", "Kicker app panel", or putting the unique name somewhere visible.
Now, the "advance" user, this who is not afraid of configuring something new or learn a new app, can install him/herself a distribution. But then there are some problems: half-baked simplified interfases made their path from absolute beginner to "intermediate" user hard.
That's only to encourage the very good work that you are doing. I really miss Konqui when I'm on Win, there nothing like this.
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Re: Include specific names
by Sad Eagle on Monday 30/Sep/2002, @06:26
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This is the default since KDE3.0 -- i.e. you see KMail (Mail Client), Kate(Text Editor) in the menues.
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