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  KDE 3.1beta2 Hits the 'Net
KDE Official News Posted by Dre on Wednesday 02/Oct/2002, @22:49
from the almost-good-to-go dept.
Yesterday the KDE Project announced the release of KDE 3.1beta2, the third (and final) development release of the KDE 3.1 branch. On top of the large number of improvements over KDE 3.0 which have already been announced, this release offers a number of significant improvements, such as a new Exchange 2000® plugin for KOrganizer and a KVim plugin for KDevelop (screenshot). In addition, release coordinator Dirk Mueller notes that over 1,000 bugreports on bugs.kde.org have been fixed in the last 4 weeks. Please run this release through its paces so that KDE 3.1 will be the best we can make it! Thanks to all for the hard work in getting this release out.


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KFile Plugins
by George Russell on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @01:13
I've written some plugins for Konqueror to display details of Java, Python, Lyx, abd Bibtex files in the filemanager popups and property tabs. I'd like some wider testing and feedback. The source is downloadable from http://users.uk.freebsd.org/~grrussel .

Thanks
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:%s/kate/kvim/g
by Jos on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @01:59
<i>a KVim plugin for KDevelop</i>

Hey, this might win me over to kdevelop...
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Yay!
by Kiki on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @02:53
Ooooh! Shiny! *poing*

Oh, wait, wrong forum. Great work, guys!
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Bug statistic
by Anonymous on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @03:11
Even over 2100 bugreports closed (not fixed) since the switch to Bugzilla.
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Cool
by KDE User on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @03:23
Looks awesome. Really cool stuff you've got here!
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nice feature
by emmanuel on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @03:31
what i expect too is "a detailed list view with meta-information about files in the side-bar".
i saw screenshots a long time ago, it looked great and seemed useful too. i hope it's really what i think it is :O)
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nice feature
by emmanuel on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @03:31
what i expect too is "a detailed list view with meta-information about files in the side-bar".
i saw screenshots a long time ago, it looked great and seemed useful too. i hope it's really what i think it is :O)
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Vim KPart in kdeextragear-1
by Mickael Marchand on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @04:15
Hi guys,

the vim kpart is scheduled to be distributed in KDE 3.2 (kdeaddons pkg),
but for now it's available in the kdeextragear-1 module of KDE's CVS and it's not in 3.1.
But the current version of the kpart works fine, so you can give it a try anyway :) (I use it every day), it's known to work with kdevelop, kwrite, konqui and some other apps. In 3.2, hopefully we will have it in kmail too :)

Mik
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for experts?
by chris on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @04:18
hi , just wanted to say " please dont make kde expert-ware ", you are implementing tons of features , i dont think thats the way to go.
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I get errors trying to install the Mandrake rpms
by Andreas Joseph Krogh on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @04:43
I get the following error trying to install:

error: failed dependencies:
libpng12.so.0 is needed by libarts3-1.1.0-0.beta2.1mdk

urpmi libpng:
everything already installed

Anybody knows how to fix this(without --force).
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Debian packages
by L1 on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @04:46
are there any sarge packages available?
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(X)Emacs support
by Heiner on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @04:54
Is an (X)Emacs support planned for KDevelop? Just curious...

Heiner
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KDENetwork Packages for SuSE
by MarkusK on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @04:56
Hi,

i got suspicios, because kmail wasn't starting for me. So i checked ftp dir, and found no kdenetwork for x86 8.0 and 8.1 SuSE packages. Is that correct?

Markus
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SuSE RPMs
by Alex on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @05:44
Hi,

I got a problem with the SuSE8.0 RPMs. When I start the filemanager it crashes with following message:
Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy

When I start the filemanager as root I get the same errormessage, but konq doesn't crash.

Any idea?

Thanx,
Alex
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Snapshot theme as "default"? Please NO.
by Dieter Nützel on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @08:46
My "problem" is not that it looks so Win... like but it's "pretty" colored, overloaded and ugly.

Where is the "old" clarity of KDE?
A desktop should be useful and "clear" in the first place.

No offence about all the great new stuff in the back!

-Dieter

--
Dieter Nützel
Graduate Student, Computer Science

University of Hamburg
Department of Computer Science
@home: Dieter.Nuetzel at hamburg.de (replace at with @)
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Mandrake 9.0
by Paul Seamons on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @09:32
Anybody with 9.0 rpms out there yet?
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Great, but still too slow
by Øyvind Sæther on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @09:42
KDE 3.1beta 2 is great, it looks like KDE has finally 'grown up'. But it's still not instant (and probably never will be, anyway).

Regarding speed: On AMD400, Gnome2 is usable and KDE3 is unusable (way too slow). On Athlon 2000+, Gnome2 is instant and KDE3 is usable.

So my prayer is that the KDE developers concentrate on optimizeing for performance once KDE3.1 is stable.

By makeing KDE usable on old, slow computers, KDEs potential user-base would increse substantial.

Another idea is to have a fist-time-you-run-kde setup-tool where you select/detect computer speed and apply settings for (a) slow computer (b) fast computer and (c) hot-of-the-line computer.

Features and flashy effects are great, but to me, INSTANT is equally important (no waiting period whatsoever, ever).

Look at the gui on mobile phones. Would users accept a 10 minute waiting period when they open their phonebook?
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great but....
by gunnar on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @11:40
kde is great and i use it for all my work!!! thanx

but - who is choosing names such KRfb and KRdc for desktop sharing????

oh man. is it so difficult to name it deskshare or something else u can remember?

anyway. looking forward to kde3.1.

-gunnar
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Compileing: Some users will have some problems.
by Øyvind Sæther on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @12:11
Error 1: kdeprint/cups will not compile if you got XFree compiled from Source (also affects some distributions).

Solution 1: Enter '#define HasZlib YES' into the host.def file when you compile XFree to avoid this error. If you already compiled XFree, the solution is to do a 'rm /usr/X11R6/lib/libz.a'.

Error 2: The kdepim package will not compile. There is no GLOBAL include library named kdateedit.h included on line 27 in dateedit.h by recurrenceedit.cpp in line 54.

Solution 2:
Copy kdateedit.h from ../kdepim-3.0.8/libkdepimin to the $KDEDIR/include before you compile this package.

This is, ofcource, a beta, so shit happens.

I got the impression from a developer that 'if a user fails to build xfree correct then it is the users own fault.'. My opinion is that ./configure should detect as many strange configuration errors as possible and adapt.

http://oyvinds.tk/
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Idea for RedHat users
by ac on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @13:12
So normally I'm here saying "I wish I had RedHat RPMS" but now that I'm running "nullified" KDE, I have a different idea.

Although KDE people are in no way responsible for RedHat's f*ck-ups, they may be able to do things to improve their image to the RedHat-using world that only knows nullified KDE, and they don't want to change distros. Instead of providing RedHat RPMs for every KDE milestone, I think it would be interesting if some industrious KDE coder made "Corrected RedHat RPMS" that address the version of KDE most recently vandalized by RedHat in an official release. Or even "Differential Corrected RedHat RPMS" that only fix what's broken.

For example, RedHat 8.0 features a nullified KDE 3.0.3. A corrected 3.0.3 version could be released, and no more would be released until the next RedHat release. This would be considerably less frequent work than providing RedHat versions for all recent milestones. Also, since RedHat will have to periodically resync their branch with the main KDE tree, it will become increasingly easy to figure out what they're breaking and change it back.

Anyway, yes it's a lot of work still. But it would be a big public relations improvement over the current situation, when the world at large thinks we're just whining about a theme change (they really think we can just switch from Bluecurve to Keramik and it will stop being broken). If even some of the rest of the world sees everything RedHat broke, maybe things will improve.

Anyway, just an idea. Not even any code to back myself up. But I think it's worth thinking about.
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KDE is mature
by dwt on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @16:00
I haven't tested KDE-3.1beta2 yet, but I'm running KDE-3.0.3
Finally there's nothing that bothers me anymore.
(I know of some bugs, but they don't interfere with my daily usage,
so for me everything is a-ok)
Truly, for my daily desktop chores, everything works fine.
Linux ownz!
Tnx developers.
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Feature plan update??
by Metrol on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @20:07
Been a while since the feature plan page has had an update. It'd sure be nice for us non-developer types to follow along with what all is going on.

http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.1-features.html

Any chance for an update to this now that Beta2 has hit the streets? Love to know what all to look for in testing it out over here in FreeBSD land.
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RedHat Null
by Jarl Gjessing on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @20:31
One thing I really liked with RedHat was, that I could download the latest kernel from ftp.kde.org, copy the .config to the new kernel directory, do some selections anc compile, the same with KDE and much other stuff. I found this a bit difficult in other distros because of strange patches.
With the null version things has changed, I cant even compile the kernel. It faisl due to missing includes, damn I thought, lets try to compile KDE so it looks more "KDE'ish", but ney.. KDE would'nt compile either (and damn the Nullified version is ugly!)
Well, Ive gotten a new distro with gcc-3.2, it must be really fast I thought.
So, I made a race between my two identical machines. (They normally booptup within the same time, only a few seconds apart) this time it was way big difference!!
The old one (with the same services enabled) booted way faster!!! So the nullified version if way gone from my machines, and I'm happily back to SuSE,

If anyone ever gets to know why kde wont compile on RH, I'd like to know so I can make alternative RPMS to the nullified version.
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Kolf Courses
by Jason Katz-Brown on Thursday 03/Oct/2002, @23:02
Hi all,

Just a reminder that new in this release is Kolf, a minigolf game.

http://katzbrown.com/kolf/

You can design your own courses (read the http://katzbrown.com/kolf/About/secret/editing.html documentation), or download more courses from the Kolf Courses page:

http://katzbrown.com/kolf/Courses/User Uploaded/

You can also upload your own courses:

http://katzbrown.com/kolf/Courses/Upload/

I like comments: jason@katzbrown.com


Thanks so much,
Jason
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How about LSB-packages for KDE 3.1?
by Maarten Rommerts on Friday 04/Oct/2002, @11:49
I wonder if there are plans for relasing LSB-compliant RPM for KDE 3.1. Now that all major ditributions support this standard, we can work on one real good RPM for all distibutions. It should make live a lot eassier for all people.

Cheers!
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A wrong icon??
by Daniel Dantas on Friday 04/Oct/2002, @17:54
Hey, there is a mimetype icon named sownd.png in icons directory. There is a icon named sound.png too.
It is located in $KDEDIR/share/icons/crystal/64x64/mimetypes/sownd.png.
Is it a mistake or a real icon??
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[OT] KC KDE?
by AC on Friday 04/Oct/2002, @22:46
Offtopic, but what happened to the Kernel Cousin for KDE?
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Sad news... KDE League found dead :(
by kdeleague == dead on Saturday 05/Oct/2002, @04:15
<a href="http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=247">I just heard the sad news on talk radio.</a> KDE League Inc. nonprofit corporation was found dead. Even if you didn't understand how the League was really supporting KDE, there's no denying its contributions to the promotion and development of free software. Truly an Open Source Icon.
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pixie+
by marco puszina on Saturday 05/Oct/2002, @13:44
i know development of pixie is frozen because mosfet is gone (does someone knows details?) - just one question .. is someone able to compile pixie+030 on kde31b2? ... trying like hell here ...

rgds
marc'O
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Finally someone ported some screensavers ...
by Mathis Moder on Sunday 06/Oct/2002, @06:12
After wandering around in my freshly compiled KDE 3.0.8 i discovered some recent OpenGL-screensavers! yes, that's how to impress me, truly ... hopefully more of them are coming.
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KRfb
by KDE User on Sunday 06/Oct/2002, @13:02
Am I the only one who dislikes the new "invitations" system of KRfb? I don't want to invite people to use my computer, I want it set up so *I* can use it remotely. I know that you can set this up through the control center, but I really liked the old way, where you started KRfb and you got that little icon in your tray (the tray sucks beyond suck, by the way, applets are much better, but I digress). Now I can't just run KRfb when I want to use VNC, I have to go through kcontrol and then when I don't have my icon maybe I'll forget that VNC is running, etc.
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What's wrong with the KDE apps page???
by Ralexx on Monday 07/Oct/2002, @02:14
OK, I heard something about an hardware upgrade, but does that take weeks? And the following message (you get it when trying to connect to the server) is more emberassing than informative...
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Server Down Until Sunday
The following servers are currently down for a major hardware upgrade:
* www.kde.com
* apps.kde.com
* lists.kde.com
* promo.kde.org
We expect service to be restored at 12:01 am, Sunday, August 19, 2001.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
-----
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Problem with KDE-NETWORK on Solaris
by Tony Sweets on Tuesday 08/Oct/2002, @15:52
Well I've been fighting the build process on my Solaris 9 Desktop for about a week
now and it seems that I'm at a stopping point. I've managed to build all of the packages except for KDE-NETWORK. 1st problem with it is that it doesn't untar all of the way. This is where it stops.

x kdenetwork-3.0.8/libkdenetwork/tests/data/codec_quoted-printable/wrap, 2521 bytes, 5 tape blocks
tar: directory checksum error


So next I try untarring it on a Linux machine then ftping it over to my Solaris box for the build. After I do that I run ./configure and that goes to completion. But when I run make, I get a bunch of Makefile errors like this:

make[2]: Leaving directory `/export/home/tsweets/kde/beta2/kdenetwork-3.0.8/doc'
Making all in kdict
make[2]: Entering directory `/export/home/tsweets/kde/beta2/kdenetwork-3.0.8/kdict'
Makefile:310: *** missing separator. Stop.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/export/home/tsweets/kde/beta2/kdenetwork-3.0.8/kdict'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/export/home/tsweets/kde/beta2/kdenetwork-3.0.8'
make: *** [all] Error 2



First thing, who is packaging the source up? Can the Makefile problem be related? Remember I have already downloaded and built the entire KDE 3.1 Beta2 source except for KDE-ADDINS and KDE-BINDINGS.

Thanks
Tony

BTW: Line 310 in the Makefile looks like -
@AMDEP_TRUE@#DEP_FILES = $(DEPDIR)/dcopinterface_skel.P $(DEPDIR)/kdict.all_cp
p.P $(DEPDIR)/actions.Po $(DEPDIR)/application.Po \
@AMDEP_TRUE@ $(DEPDIR)/dict.Po $(DEPDIR)/main.Po \
@AMDEP_TRUE@ $(DEPDIR)/matchview.Po $(DEPDIR)/options.Po \
@AMDEP_TRUE@ $(DEPDIR)/queryview.Po $(DEPDIR)/sets.Po \
@AMDEP_TRUE@ $(DEPDIR)/toplevel.Po
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Debian woody
by guest on Wednesday 09/Oct/2002, @03:05
*Debian:
*Debian stable (woody): Intel i386

When it will come back again?
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