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  KDE 3.1 RC1: Ready for a Short Test Drive
KDE Official News Posted by Dre on Tuesday 29/Oct/2002, @06:34
from the give-it-a-spin dept.
The KDE Project yesterday announced the release of KDE 3.1 RC 1. This release, while important, will have but a short lifespan (RC 2 is scheduled for next Monday), and so binary packages are not planned. A couple of points to consider: First, if you are wed to the hicolor icons, please note that they have been moved to the kdeartwork package; the other packages ship only with the new modern and attractive Crystal-SVG icon theme. Second, Klipper users who experience slowness or possible crashes in Konsole or KMail with this release should try disabling the Klipper syncing options, and then check the KDE 3.1 Info Page about reporting results. Please give this release a thorough testing so KDE 3.1 will be good and ready on schedule! A short but informative preview of the much-improved KDE 3.1 is available on the KDE Promo site.


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Highcolor Icons
by David Johnson on Tuesday 29/Oct/2002, @10:36
"if you are wed to the hicolor icons, please note that they have been moved to the kdeartwork package"

Aargh! These are wonderful icons. They have a classic and simple look without being ugly. Eye candy is good, but candy is desert. Sometimes a sensible main course is what is desired. At least keep hicolor in the kdelibs package.
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Nah, Crystal isn't SVG
by TheFogger on Tuesday 29/Oct/2002, @10:56
Title says all. Still, it's a really nice icon set, I've been using it with KDE 3.0.4 for a long time now.
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Compiling
by Vic on Tuesday 29/Oct/2002, @11:03
I'm compiling RC1 on my home system from work as we speak. Can't wait to get home and try it. Ran into a few compile snags - one with kfontinst and the locations of freetype, one with kmail and a missing mStartupFolder declaration, and one large mess in kmidi. I fixed the first two - I just bypassed compiling kmidi since I don't use it.

I suspect the first and last are more related to problems with my setup than with KDE itself. But as for the kmail error... I can't see that working without help on other systems... ?
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Why Realese Candidate? ;)
by Dimitri on Tuesday 29/Oct/2002, @11:09
Well the beta2 is as stable as KDE 3.0.4. Never had any crashes. Again perfect work from the KDE team.

Dim
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Critical Patch
by Jeremy Huddleston on Tuesday 29/Oct/2002, @11:45
A patch was committed today to address a critical bug, that I don't think got into RC1 (I'm not 100% positive about that, but I'm pretty sure). I advise you guys to apply it before testing out RC1.

http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48923
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KDE 3.1b2 was slow at startup
by suggestion man on Tuesday 29/Oct/2002, @12:07
Isn't there a way to improve KDE start speed ?
It's very too slow !
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Compiling it now
by Haakon Nilsen on Tuesday 29/Oct/2002, @14:57
I'm compiling now! Since I've just installed Redhat 8.0, I thought I'd
just skip their KDE alltogether :>

It's been ages since I last compiled KDE from source, it's really grown ;)
kdelibs took some 4-5 hours on my rusty old celeron433mhz. But it'll be
worth it, 3.1 looks sweet.

Also, thanks to the nice people on #kde-users at irc.kde.org for their patient
support :)
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Will KDE-3.1 depend on a Qt-3.1?
by Thorsten Schnebeck on Tuesday 29/Oct/2002, @15:18
Latest KDE-CVS needs a Qt-3.1pre (qt-copy). And it is soo unstable compared to the lastest possible KDE-CVS+Qt-3.0.5. Qt 3.1 seems to have problems with e.g. font-handling. Using a current qt-copy e.g. Konqi crash too often with stuff like this:

[New Thread 1024 (LWP 1469)]
0x41015569 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#0 0x41015569 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1 0x410913f8 in __DTOR_END__ () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2 0x40ece402 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3 0x406720c0 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler (sig=11) at kcrash.cpp:235
#4 0x40ecc134 in pthread_sighandler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#5 <signal handler called>
#6 0x40dfca2d in XGetFontProperty () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6
#7 0x409aab9e in QFontPrivate::fillFontDef () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#8 0x409b09ed in QFontPrivate::initFontInfo ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#9 0x409b245a in QFontPrivate::load () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#10 0x409b148c in QFontPrivate::loadUnicode () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#11 0x409b179d in QFontPrivate::load () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#12 0x409a8e37 in QFontMetrics::QFontMetrics ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#13 0x41bcfdcc in khtml::Font::update (this=0x84d0f20, devMetrics=0x80657a8)
at font.cpp:194
#14 0x41be1780 in khtml::CSSStyleSelector::styleForElement (this=0x831c348,
e=0x84d0a98, state=0) at cssstyleselector.cpp:362
#15 0x41b5c5ac in DOM::ElementImpl::attach (this=0x84d0a98)
at dom_elementimpl.cpp:318
#16 0x41b6b8f9 in KHTMLParser::insertNode (this=0x8474310, n=0x84d0a98,
flat=false) at htmlparser.cpp:308
#17 0x41b6b7cd in KHTMLParser::parseToken (this=0x8474310, t=0x8474214)
at htmlparser.cpp:267
#18 0x41b748a9 in HTMLTokenizer::processToken (this=0x84741e0)
at htmltokenizer.cpp:1561
#19 0x41b72f9d in HTMLTokenizer::parseTag (this=0x84741e0, src=@0x84742ec)
at htmltokenizer.cpp:1094
#20 0x41b73ab9 in HTMLTokenizer::write (this=0x84741e0, str=@0xbfffe91c,
appendData=true) at htmltokenizer.cpp:1348
#21 0x41b284b2 in KHTMLPart::write (this=0x83ddf48,
str=0x84c1078 "<TABLE CELLSPACING=\"0\" CELLPADDING=\"0\" WIDTH=\"130\" BORDER=\"0\">\n<TR>\n<TD BGCOLOR=\"#eeeeee\" WIDTH=\"5\"> &nbsp; </TD>\n<TD BGCOLOR=\"#eeeeee\">\n<FONT FACE=\"Helvetica, Arial\" COLOR=\"#333333\" SIZE=\"-1\"><B>Sear"..., len=203) at khtml_part.cpp:1399
#22 0x41b261bf in KHTMLPart::slotData (this=0x83ddf48, kio_job=0x82f9be0,
data=@0xbfffed54) at khtml_part.cpp:1109
#23 0x41b3d00a in KHTMLPart::qt_invoke (this=0x83ddf48, _id=9, _o=0xbfffeab0)
at khtml_part.moc:344
#24 0x409e01d4 in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#25 0x40183c21 in KIO::TransferJob::data (this=0x82f9be0, t0=0x82f9be0,
t1=@0xbfffed54) at jobclasses.moc:728
#26 0x40174090 in KIO::TransferJob::slotData (this=0x82f9be0,
_data=@0xbfffed54) at job.cpp:737
#27 0x40184487 in KIO::TransferJob::qt_invoke (this=0x82f9be0, _id=18,
_o=0xbfffebd4) at jobclasses.moc:807
#28 0x409e01d4 in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#29 0x40168d73 in KIO::SlaveInterface::data (this=0x8404448, t0=@0xbfffed54)
at slaveinterface.moc:195
#30 0x401674ed in KIO::SlaveInterface::dispatch (this=0x8404448, _cmd=100,
rawdata=@0xbfffed54) at slaveinterface.cpp:246
#31 0x40166ed8 in KIO::SlaveInterface::dispatch (this=0x8404448)
at slaveinterface.cpp:191
#32 0x40164c2d in KIO::Slave::gotInput (this=0x8404448) at slave.cpp:221
#33 0x401665f9 in KIO::Slave::qt_invoke (this=0x8404448, _id=4, _o=0xbfffee68)
at slave.moc:114
#34 0x409e01d4 in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#35 0x409e0365 in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#36 0x40c31904 in QSocketNotifier::activated ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#37 0x409f678d in QSocketNotifier::event () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#38 0x40996256 in QApplication::internalNotify ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#39 0x40996054 in QApplication::notify () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#40 0x40611290 in KApplication::notify (this=0xbffff378, receiver=0x8319718,
event=0xbffff0b0) at kapplication.cpp:441
#41 0x4097b157 in QEventLoop::activateSocketNotifiers ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#42 0x4095dcd2 in QEventLoop::processEvents () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#43 0x409a621e in QEventLoop::enterLoop () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#44 0x409a6186 in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#45 0x409963d9 in QApplication::exec () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#46 0x416ab774 in main (argc=2, argv=0x805e500) at konq_main.cc:130
#47 0x0804dbd7 in launch (argc=2, _name=0x805e77c "konqueror",
args=0x805e78f "\001", cwd=0x0, envc=1, envs=0x805e7a0 "",
reset_env=false, tty=0x0, avoid_loops=false,
startup_id_str=0x805e7a4 "susi;1035933340;324242;23568") at kinit.cpp:547
#48 0x0804ecd7 in handle_launcher_request (sock=7) at kinit.cpp:1023
#49 0x0804f491 in handle_requests (waitForPid=0) at kinit.cpp:1189
#50 0x080506b0 in main (argc=3, argv=0xbffff934, envp=0xbffff944)
at kinit.cpp:1534
#51 0x40f88671 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6

Bye

Thorsten
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Artsd
by Jesús Antonio Sánchez A. on Tuesday 29/Oct/2002, @16:24
Hi. Is it only me? or does anyone had experience artsd being a little
bit buggy (kde-3.1rc1). It plays well for about 10 secs,then makes a noise, continues to play well, then makes a noise, and so goes on.

I compiled it with gcc 3.2

Thanks
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Word wrap
by antiphon on Tuesday 29/Oct/2002, @21:27
I've been hearing that the RC1 release is supposed to have soft word wrap which supposedly will even respect indentation. Can anyone tell me if this is true since I don't have the pipe or the time to get RC1 up and running?

It has been absolutely ridiculous that line-wrapping in Un*x has been so rudimentary that we haven't been able to do this. Only the August HTML editor has word wrapping so far as I know but even its wrapping plays tricks w/the keyboard like Emacs's and GNOMEs crappy character wrapping does.

I couldn't believe it when I found out that UNIX had no soft wrapping editors. Please tell me that this is no longer true! As it is now, I have to fire up Windoze programs under Wine to edit my HTML and keep my sanity :(
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Will there be Debian packages?
by Plato on Wednesday 30/Oct/2002, @05:25
Will there be Debian packages of the RC? I'd like to test them, but I don't fancy uninstalling all my Debian stuff and compiling all the new stuff.
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ChangeLog
by somekool on Wednesday 30/Oct/2002, @09:23
is there any place to find a list of fix being apply to 3.0.9 from 3.0.8 ?

just curious....

thanks
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Anyone compiled it successfully in Redhat 8.0?
by ciicii on Wednesday 30/Oct/2002, @13:46
I got an errror message when I compiled the QT3.1.
is there something I missed?

/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXft
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[1]: *** [../lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1.0] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/qt-3.1/src'
make: *** [sub-src] Error 2
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thank you...
by L1 on Wednesday 30/Oct/2002, @16:55
...guys for testing this non final version. i wait for debians official packages, but because of you, they will be rock stable!!!
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thank you...
by L1 on Wednesday 30/Oct/2002, @16:55
...guys for testing this non final version. i wait for debians official packages, but because of you, they will be rock stable!!!
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panel
by L1 on Wednesday 30/Oct/2002, @17:09
what i forgot: kde is really cool, but i hate one thing: this thousands of little arrows in panel. they are ugly and useless. i got rid of most of them in kcontrol, but this ones where you get this "Move,Remove,Preferences,Panel"-menu are still there. can i comment out some lines in sourcecode to remove them??? please, help ;-)
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KdeLibs WON'T Compile
by James Richard Tyrer on Thursday 31/Oct/2002, @17:59
Is there some explaination of why a tarball that won't compile was released?

Is this GCC or Qt issue?

I am using GCC 3.2 and Qt 3.1 Beta 2 and I consistently get this error:

khtmlview.cpp: In member function `virtual void KHTMLToolTip::maybeTip(const QPoint&)':
khtmlview.cpp:247: no matching function for call to `KHTMLToolTip::tip(QRect&, QString&, QRect&)'

????

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JRT
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More on icons
by James Richard Tyrer on Friday 01/Nov/2002, @17:25
After compiling and installing: kdeartwork, I found that I still had icon trouble.

Did anyone consider backward compatibility??

It seems that: "hicolor" is now called: "kdeclasic" and "lowcolor" is now called "Lowcolor".

So KDE can't find my icons. :-(

So, I know, just rename the directories. I already did that.

BUT, applications that install icons in a directory other than the application's are going to be looking for: "hicolor" & "locolor". So, links are necessary. But, not only for the global directory, but for all of the user: $HOME/.kde/share/icons/" directories as well.

My suggestion is to change it back immediately before the problem spreads.

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JRT
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wheeeeeeeeeee!
by montz on Sunday 03/Nov/2002, @09:29
most annoying bug of kde is fixed! now you can wheelscroll in konquer without having to worry about comboboxes on pages!! It was really annoying on sites like slashdot.
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what about "Second"?
by Joerg de la Haye on Sunday 03/Nov/2002, @10:57
Slowness is mentioned in the article, and I do notice it while typing some input in konsole, or in any HTML formular field like this one or at google.com.
Compare typing a line in konsole to typing a line in xterm and a line in the konqueror addressfield, then delete these inputs via backspace - there're lags and delay, but only in konsole.

Does anyone noticed this either?
I didn't have these problems in older versions of KDE, not even in Beta 2.
Also if you uninstall klipper, it doesn't go away.
Maybe a bug?
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Runs fine on OpenBSD
by Jimmy Mcnamara on Sunday 03/Nov/2002, @11:21
just finished compiling it on my OpenBSD/macppc machine.
runs smothly on a 500mhz G4.
klipper tends to crash from time to time though, i recon it will be fixed
in due time to the release aye?.
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One thing I love about Nautilus
by Rimmer on Monday 04/Nov/2002, @08:48
are the smooth, rounded edges around the icon name (when the icon has been clicked once to highlight it). In KDE, a highlighted icon has a plain box around the icon name. Even worse, the icon name isn't even centered properly in the box. Any chance of this getting changed in KDE 3.1? :)
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