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Revolutionary
by Bart on Tuesday 07/Jan/2003, @13:52
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| This is so revolutionary! Khtml on Macs! Does anyone have any idea how long it'll take before Linux people can see these changes in Konqueror at least in alpha or beta form? |
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Re: Revolutionary
by Datschge on Tuesday 07/Jan/2003, @17:27
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I'm expecting the merger of both sources to take not too much of time. I guess KDE 3.1 will be delayed again a little though. ;)
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Re: Revolutionary
by thefrog on Wednesday 08/Jan/2003, @01:29
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Argg!! Don't make such funny expections.
Some developers might here them ):-
No, I think 3.2 is more reasonable, or may be 3.1.x.
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Re: Revolutionary
by Gunter Ohrner on Friday 10/Jan/2003, @10:42
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Hey, KDE 3.1 is feature frozen since quite a few weeks (moths?) and currently at RC level. These changes will go into 3.2. (3.1.x is for translation, serious bug and security fixes only, as 3.0.x was.)
Greetings,
Gunter Ohrner
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Re: Revolutionary
by Sheldon on Tuesday 07/Jan/2003, @19:41
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Probably KDE 3.2 at the earliest.
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Re: Revolutionary
by Rob Kaper on Wednesday 08/Jan/2003, @04:38
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Some changes have already been committed to HEAD (what will be 3.2) and bugfixes are being backported to KDE_3_1_BRANCH to appear in 3.1.1. Since few of these improvements are grave bugs, I doubt 3.1 will be delayed, only showstoppers can do so now. No indication of a delay on the lists either.
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Re: Revolutionary
by Dawnrider on Wednesday 08/Jan/2003, @02:19
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Did you say:
This is so revolutionary! Khtml on *E*Macs!
::grins::
(ref to all the many Emacs is large enough to be it's own OS jokes)
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Re: Revolutionary
by Roberto J Dohnert on Wednesday 08/Jan/2003, @14:47
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What they need to do is seperate the konqueror code from the base packages so we as developers can have a better structure, one of the problems I have now is that if i make any changes to theKonqueror code and recompile, something in KDE crashes It takes me forever to debug and find the problem., who knows maybe Apple will release Safari for Linux. I know im pushing the limits and probably a little bit of wishful thinking.
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Re: Revolutionary
by Michael Collette on Friday 10/Jan/2003, @02:02
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> who knows maybe Apple will release Safari for Linux.
Or not. Apple, as much as I don't care for their stuff personally, does understand one vital concept that seems to get lost in the world of Linux. People flock to apps, not OS's. I've been hearing from just too many sources a very similar theme keep coming up. What can you run under Linux that you can't run under Windows? More specifically, what desktop style app would drive me away from Windows to Linux?
Ask a Mac user a similar question, and they'll come back with a stack of responses concerning a number of fairly recent Apple software offerings. They might even point out a few 3rd party apps that are Mac only. These are far more compelling reasons to use a Mac than anything that OSX itself brings to the table.
What seems to be happening far too often is that the really cool stuff developed for Linux gets itself a Windows port going. Yes, that app now enjoys a wider audience, but in so doing actually hurts the long term acceptance of a Unix desktop. As closed up as it sounds, I believe that some of the cooler applications out there need to code so specifically for a Unix environment that porting to Windows is made far more difficult.
Personally, the KDE desktop itself is a compelling reason to stay right where I'm at with FreeBSD. KMail jumps way up there as a killer app for me, as it's arguably the best mail client I've used to date. As compelling as these are for me, they aren't going to force a shift by themselves. These things are what keeps the user that has moved over.
Over this next year, the entirety of the Free software community needs to be able to answer the question of what you can do here that you can't do elsewhere. Arguments over price, security, and even stability just don't play with the desktop user like they do with the server administrator.
On the plus side though, I truly believe that this is the year where Microsoft will begin to feel the impact of KDE coming strong into their desktop market space. You think they're paranoid about the data center? Just wait until the end users start shifting! I can hardly wait for the priceless over-the-top reactions to come.
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Re: Revolutionary
by Gunnar Liljas on Tuesday 14/Jan/2003, @15:26
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In the absence of /. ratings, I'd like to say:
Score:5, Insightful
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