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What Else Are They Experimenting With?
by nowWhat on Tuesday 07/Jan/2003, @15:01
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Apple started by borrowing KDE's JavaScript implementation (KJS)
Now, they've moved onto KHTML to help replace M$'s "Internet Exploder"
Methinks perhaps Apple might be getting tired of being tied down with crappy old versions of M$Office as well, so can we expect AppleOffice soon, based on KOffice of course :-)
Why don't they just buy Trolltech and free the code for all platforms; that way the community can port all KDE apps and frameworks to the Mac easier than currently being done by the good guys at the Fink project, and at the same time they can be ported over to windoze so we can destroy M$ in their own back yard!
Jingle Bells,
Bill Gates Smells,
Ballmer's Run Away,
Oh What Fun To See KDE Ride
Into One, Micro Soft Way... Hey!!
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Re: What Else Are They Experimenting With?
by Jussi on Tuesday 07/Jan/2003, @19:00
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> so can we expect AppleOffice soon, based on KOffice of course :-)
Well, Appleworks already exists. Whether it's future versions will be based on KOffice or OpenOffice is a good question :)
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Re: What Else Are They Experimenting With?
by Michael Collette on Friday 10/Jan/2003, @02:18
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> Whether it's future versions will be based on
> KOffice or OpenOffice is a good question
Tough call to be sure. KOffice is probably tons simpler to tweak into an Apple looking application. By default it simply looks nicer, and KWord offers a distinctly different approach from MS Word. It's also far more inline with a publishing application, which is certainly smack dab in the middle of Apple's core market. Just try getting a Quark user to bring up MS Word some time. It makes for some darn entertaining and colorful language.
For all that's going for KOffice, OpenOffice still has significant advantages. It's codebase and stability are quite obviously more mature. The file importing and exporting from MS products is about as good as can be found in any competing application. There is also the usability advantage that OO mimicks MS Office so closely that training needs are reduced.
What may just toss the whole decision over to OO is that it is being actively worked on right now for OSX, where KOffice isn't. Depends on how fast they would want to come to market with an MS Office replacement. If there's no hurry, they may tweak away at KOffice through 2003 for a big announcement in 2004. Whatever happens, it'll make for one heck of a show if they do push MS products off their product line.
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Re: What Else Are They Experimenting With?
by zippy on Sunday 19/Jan/2003, @23:40
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I actually thought about attempting to take a look at doing the port of Koffice.... How hard can it actually be? There is a native version of QT for the Mac so the widgets are handled out the box with a recompile... the tough part is finding out what are the absolute minimum KDE libs that are needed for Koffice to work. The Fink project has all of them native to Darwin X11... So at the worst you have to run them thru Qmake and compile for Mac. Relink where the apps look for the libraries so they look within the .app bundle instead of the system if needed....
I know I am probably smoking crack... Since I can not remember how to do half that stuff! But I think somebody more skilled then I could knock out a nasty version of it in a couple of weeks tops with the eval release of MacQT 3.1.1.
Might be an interesting thing for someone on the KDE side of the house to do to take advantage of some of the momentum of the safari release.
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Re: What Else Are They Experimenting With?
by Metrol on Tuesday 21/Jan/2003, @02:16
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Looks like The Fink Project already has a KOffice package done up.
http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/package.php/koffice
BTW, thanks for the "Fink" reference. This is the first that I've heard about it. Looks like they've already managed to get quite a bit done over there.
Personally, I won't be doing much playing with OSX until Quark supports it. When it does, I'll have at least two machines in my marketing department moving on over to it. Most likely I'll keep one box around for myself to play with. It would be just too weird seeing KOffice up in Aqua.
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Re: What Else Are They Experimenting With?
by xSmurf on Wednesday 08/Jan/2003, @17:51
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If not though about this seams an ideal solution, but think a little bit more and you will easly find why apple would never do this... it would be their death... who would buy apple's hardware (even if better built) when they can have a cheap PC that will run their software for free?
Trust me, this WILL not happen, all that would possibly be left would be Pro software (Final Cut, DVD Studio Pro and Cie).
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Re: What Else Are They Experimenting With?
by frogstomp on Monday 20/Jan/2003, @23:51
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OpenOffice sounds like the obvious choice. Many rumours are about that Apple is prepping for an Office like suite to take over M$ in the advent that M$ pulls support for Mac.
>"who would buy apple's hardware (even if better built) when they can have a cheap PC that will run their software for free?"<
Well, for the most part Apples 'Final' versions tend to be pretty rock solid. I totally respect the KDE/GNOME/LINUX crowds, keeping software 'real', but for peoples such as myself who seem to be able to run an file browser amuck, we have come to heavily rely on the overly propietorized MacOS to help us forget about what our computer is doing and just use the software we need to get a job done. I just want to plug in my computer and use my software. Anything else is just Time lots and lots of time!!!!!!
Thank goodness for OSX and its 'unix' underpinnings! The clueless such as myself are starting to realise the amazing works of the OpenSource community.
My hat is off to you all!
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Crappy old versions of M$Office?
by The Smile Man on Friday 24/Jan/2003, @10:34
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Not in an effort to be rude, nor pro Microsoft, but the Microsoft Mac Buisness Unit (MBU) has done a great job with Office v.X. It is the best version of the Office on any platform. It's stability, speed, look, and feel are superb. I have hatted M$Office since version 6 which was the spawn of Satan. Despite this the new MBU has produced and maintained some great products: MSOffice v.X, Remote Desktop Connection, and MSN Messenger. Sure Windows Media Player on the Mac sucks a fat one but ever since version 6.4 on the PC is has becoming nothing but pure trash. Just thought I would toss in my ideas.
An office-like Apple product, if done correctly (AppleWorks 6.2, OSX port is NOT an example to follow), would be a terriffic thing.
Oh, and buy the way, Ballmer is weiredest guy on the face of the planet.
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