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  KDE 3.1: Well Worth the Wait
KDE Official News Posted by Dre on Monday 27/Jan/2003, @21:48
from the the-day-that-would-not-come dept.
The KDE Project today announced the release of KDE 3.1, "a major feature upgrade to the third generation of the most advanced and powerful free desktop for Linux and other UNIXes." While you are busy downloading the new packages for this fabulous release, we hope you will enjoy the über-cool (disclaimer: I wrote it) KDE 3.1 Feature Guide, as well as a sortable KDE 3.1 Requirements page, both new for this release. And if that's not enough, you can also check out the detailed ChangeLog. And - ah yes - there are also screenshots. So much to do today . . . .


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First w00t ?
by kalpha on Monday 27/Jan/2003, @22:22
Aallll righty then.
Start yer browsers.
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Last minute Quanta changes...
by Eric Laffoon on Monday 27/Jan/2003, @22:56
We were so excited to be included in the 3.1 release. At first it was going to be very close to our 3.0 so our feature set was small... then the date slipped and we worked on sanitzing even the most obscure bugs and tweaking for speed... then we started back porting some of our 3.2 work... Then when we were thinking in perpetual release candidate mode packages really were set to final instead. So we missed getting the last few changes to 3.1 in the tarball. (Changes that made it to quanta-3.1-kde-3.0) Oops!

They are in the 3.1 branch and we will diff the package and put up a patch for download for anyone who would like it. Check the Quanta page in the next day or so for the patch. Enjoy KDE 3.1 and thanks to everyone who has made Quanta so popular. We are proud and honored to be included with such great software and great people.

PS Look for an announcement on the big easter egg in KDE 3.1 in a week or so when the dust settles. It's Kommander, the text manipulation/DCOP/scripting visual dialog builder and executor.
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Great
by john on Monday 27/Jan/2003, @23:05
And if your distro hasn't any binaries yet, it looks like Konstruct has been updated : http://konsole.kde.org/konstruct/

Happy building !
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Impressive
by Anton Velev on Monday 27/Jan/2003, @23:42
The new feature list is amazing, and the shots are impressive.
KDE is really the best desktop, and finally there is no doubt that soon or later sun, redhat and co will adopt kde as the standart desktop!

But I didn't see kvim integration into kate, kmail and kdevelop, does anyone knows when it will be included, and how I how i could probably configure kde to use kvim as my text control?

Good job KDE! I am waiting for my distro to pack it.
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Using Konstruct under Redhat 8?
by Rimmer on Monday 27/Jan/2003, @23:45
I'm sure it will be ages before there are Redhat 8 rpms, so I was thinking of using Konstruct. Anyone tried this yet? The instructions on the Konstruct page are very brief... I'm not quite sure how to go about this (other then downloading the source files on my 56k). Hopefully by the time I'm done downloading someone will have figured the build part out :)
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Mandrake 9.0?
by joe on Monday 27/Jan/2003, @23:53
Hi,
does anybody know if Mandrake will be able to release binaries in the next days?

Is anybody else providing binaries for 9.0?

Texstar ?

Thanks
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Windowstyle used?
by André on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @01:27
I've seen the windowstyle used here several times in screenshots allready. Can anyone tell me what style this is, 'cause it looks rather cool! Wannahave!
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With 3.1 out of the way
by zelegans on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @01:29
How long till 3.1.1? Are we there yet?
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So it finally happened :-)
by Debian User on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @01:33
Ok, great stuff. Little more to add. The release of 3.1 marks a milestone as now a lot of Desktop attacking software has a real worthwhile foundation to build on.

I hope the KDE project chooses wisely what to do next. I have all trust :-)

Yours, Kay
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3.1 & 3.1.xx(CVS 3.1.90) screenies need space ?
by crazycrusoe on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @02:12
hi

i have the 3.1 screenies (beautiful ones) along with some screenies of the upcomming 3.2 (cvs 3.1.90) with the new features but i dont have webspace to load them up( these files are big prolly take 15-20MB), if any one is willing to host them i can pass them my screenies for uploading.

let me know (irfan at slingshot.co.nz)
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Just a tip for compilers
by Haakon Nilsen on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @02:26
kdelibs wants libart_lgpl, and at least my experience when compiling rc2, it needed such a recent one that I had to grab it from cvs. libart_lgpl is maintained in the GNOME cvs, and I can't seem to find any info on the KDE side on how to check it out, although it is listed as a (recommended) requirement. Now here's how I got it:

export CVSROOT=':pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome'
cvs login (press enter when asked for password)
cvs -z3 checkout libart_lgpl
cd libart_lgpl
./autogen.sh --prefix=... (+ other arguments usually given to ./configure)
make
make install

And you're set to compile kdelibs. For convenience I also put the snapshot up at http://rasmus.uib.no/~st03069/libart_lgpl.tar.bz2, but then you would of course have to trust me not to trojan it ;)
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New features
by Another Anon-person on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @02:36
In the changelog I saw:

Support for "Multimedia keys" on your keyboard

Is it supposed to work? It doesn't here.
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Compiled on 7.3
by Kevin Rogers on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @03:46
Have anyone tried to compile this on a standard RedHat 7.3 box?
Are any upgrades of compilers or other non-kde packages required?
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S/MIME on SuSE 8.1 (or KDE 3.1 in generall)
by Marcus Reuss on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @03:56
KDE 3.1 seems to work quite well on a SuSE 8.1 distro. However, one thing still does not work, the S/MIME in KMail. It's still the same old problem, I can not configure the needed plugin because the "Certificate Manager" does not start.
Can anyone confirm this? Do I need to download some extra Aegypten stuff that can not be distributed with the original rpm's?
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Is it real?
by Roland on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @04:22
KDE3.1 really got released? Really? Even before DukeNukem Forever?

Seriously, great job. I had already a look at a release candidate and it's really great. A fine improvement over KDE 3.0.

My personal KDE3.1 tip: Type "fish:your-ssh-server" into Konqueror and enjoy a graphical ssh/scp frontend. A killer feature, finally easy network browsing with zero-configuration.
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wait
by IR on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @05:15
Wait? What wait?
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Distributed RPM's don't work under suse 7.3
by AM on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @05:24
After downloading the RPM's and installing under Suse 7.3
kde hangs while logging in.

It gets to "initializing system services" then stops.
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why kde 3.1 is released with more that 4000 bugs ?
by frederic heem on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @05:39
I wonder why kde 3.1 is released with known bugs, so what the difference between a beta release and a stable release ? I appreciate all the efforts made by the community but I don't appreciate that the a "stable" release contains known bugs.
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Release shedule for KDE 3.2?
by Steinchen on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @06:14
There isn't a release schedule on developer.kde.org for KDE 3.2 yet. Could I expect KDE 3.2 in 2003 or would it take longer? Who would be the release coordinator?
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compile problem on debian unstable
by simone on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @06:50
Anyone?
i try to compile on mi debian/unstable /sid) but i get some error with the first package, arts.
dpkg-buildpackage tell that i don't have qt-mt but (i am sure!!) i have libt3-mt and libqt3-mt-dev!!!! in detail, i have the last official package for unstable, tagged qt 3.1.1 cvs 20-12-2002 binary and headers (libqt3-*-dev). currently i am using kde3.1rc6 self-compiled whith the same script dpkg-buildpackage... anyone have the same problem? anyone solved it?

for all coder: very very GREAT work!!!!! the best desktop EVER! simple as windows XP, stable as KDE!
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3.04 to 3.1 in less than 25 minutes!!
by Paul Hands on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @07:38
I downloaded the 3.1 rpms for SuSE8.1 this morning.
Less than 25 minutes later, it was up and running!!
No dependency issues as long as you get the order right and meet the requirements.

Great Job KDE Team......


Just try upgrading to a new version of windows in 25 mins.
O.K. I know it's not a directly relevant or very sensible comparison, but........

Thanks,

Paul
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Icons
by Matt on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @07:41
So many new nice icons, but KMail's inbox, outbox and sent-mail icons never change. Are they hard-coded? Just curious.
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Awesome Feature Guide!
by JJ on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @07:49
The feature guide is world-class. I really like it. It's complete, easy-to-understand, and attractive.

Keep up the good work.
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XINE Multimedia does not work
by KDE on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @09:49
Hi,

I installed the suse 8.1 rpm:s and xine0.9.13 but i cant get this new multimedia thing to work.. Does anyone know how to enable for exaple noatun to use the xine-libs?

This was the most wanted feature I had for 3.1 but no luck :-(

By the way.. 3.1 just feels so solid!!!.. Best KDE release ever.. try keep all next .0 releases at least the same level... Thank you!!

Bye
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XINE Multimedia does not work
by KDE on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @09:49
Hi,

I installed the suse 8.1 rpm:s and xine0.9.13 but i cant get this new multimedia thing to work.. Does anyone know how to enable for exaple noatun to use the xine-libs?

This was the most wanted feature I had for 3.1 but no luck :-(

By the way.. 3.1 just feels so solid!!!.. Best KDE release ever.. try keep all next .0 releases at least the same level... Thank you!!

Bye
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Fish?
by AC on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @09:56
What's the story with this fish:// stuff?

I thought KDE has had scp:// or sftp:// for a while...? How is it different?
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Thanks to KDE !
by Georg on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @10:10
Just a quick thank you from me. I like KDE although I use Gnome. There are two very good desktop environments and I woudn't like to miss one of them.

George
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Good news. . .but
by Terry on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @10:24
The screenshots underwhelmed me. If I understand correctly, actual SVG support is still not a reality with this release and the text looks terrible. Why not have AA turned on for these shots? Keramik while original has been around quite some time now and not nearly as slick looking as offerings in the windows world. Don't get me wrong. . .I love KDE. I just don't think the best foot was placed forward for this release.
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Panacopia?
by Grammar Nazi on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @11:42
I love the desktop guide. It does an excellent job of explaining and illustrating the new features.

One complaint: On page 7 in the desktop section, it says "offers users a panacopia of new goodies". Panacopia is not a word, at least not an existing word in English. Do a google or dictionary.com search if you're in doubt. While I'm all for creative linguistic expression, "cornucopia" might be a better choice here.

Sorry about the minor complaint. Congratulations on KDE 3.1 and the excellent guide.
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What's the best way to install KDE 3.1 in SUSE 8.1
by TABASCO on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @12:10
Just like the title says, what's the best way to install all those packages.
Any particular order?
A small guide would help a lot of people.
Thanks.
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YOU ARE THE BEST! :)
by Giovanni on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @15:21
I just wanna say:" Congratulations and thanks to all the KDE developers, testers and sponsors!"
Voglio solo dire: "Congratulazioni e grazie a tutti gli sviluppatori, i tester e gli sponsor di KDE!"
Giovanni
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Switch users
by Jarefri on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @17:49
One feature I would love to see is a switch users feature similar to winxp and xandros.
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atlast! gimme gimme gimme!
by EvilSmile on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @19:00
w00t!
It's there.
It's all mine!!!!
mwuhaahaahaaa :D

Yeah, I'm going crazy. I've been waiting so long for this =].

Thanks a ton KDE team, you are the best.

ES
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kwallet?
by Richard on Tuesday 28/Jan/2003, @19:27
Does kwallet actually compile under any situation? If so, what are the prerequisites? The requirements page mentions nothing...
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Gniiiii !!!
by olf on Wednesday 29/Jan/2003, @01:05
Mom ! mom ! I wan't KDE 3.1 on my RedHat 8.0 !
but I don't want the redhatized KDE version ! I want the real KDE(c)(tm) !
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debian packages, kdeartwork?
by Konstantin on Wednesday 29/Jan/2003, @01:09
I've installed kde3.1 on my sid-debian box from official kde-packages. but there is no kdeartwork packages or I missed something?
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Aououououwww :-P
by Manu on Wednesday 29/Jan/2003, @02:05
Je fumes ! Ou c'est qu'on download les packages pour Mandrake 9 ?

Great work !
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Totally satisfied.
by Scythe on Wednesday 29/Jan/2003, @02:08
Wow.

Yesterday i was a RedHat 8.0 user, concirned with (/terrified by) the way RedHat modifies common GNU/Linux standards and KDE 3.0.3 on it's own -design sickening- Bluecurve way. Overall happy with the system. Stable and complete.

KDE 3.1 came out.......

Like tradition....no RedHat RPM's.

Like always... too impatient to compile QT/KDE myself.

Today i am a SuSE 8.1 user. After breaking some SuSE-ish "user-friendly shell's", and upgrading to KDE 3.1, i cannot imagine being happy as this with my previous setup. KDE 3.1 just rocks. SuSE has a overal slick design.

For anyone that has not upgraded to 3.1 yet,

It's worth it!


Regards to the KDE team,

Scythe.
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compilation failure on kdelibs
by Mickael Bailly on Wednesday 29/Jan/2003, @02:24
Got compilation error on kdelibs:
took the last QT (3.1.1 or something like that), compiled arts, and then kdelibs.
Here is the error:

make[3]: Entering directory `/opt/src/kdelibs-3.1/dcop'
/bin/sh ../libtool --silent --mode=link --tag=CXX g++ -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -O2 -O3 -mpentiumpro -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_COMPAT -o libDCOP.la.closure libDCOP_la_closure.lo -R /opt/kde3/lib -R /usr/X11R6/lib -version-info 5:0:1 -no-undefined -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/opt/kde3/lib dcopstub.lo dcopref.lo dcopobject.lo dcopclient.lo KDE-ICE/libkICE.la -lqt-mt -lpng -lz -lm -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -lpthread
libtool: link: warning: `-version-info' is ignored for programs
.libs/dcopclient.o: In function `DCOPClient::applicationRegistered(QCString const &)':
.libs/dcopclient.o(.text+0x8859): undefined reference to `static_QUType_varptr'
.libs/dcopclient.o(.text+0x8860): undefined reference to `QUType_varptr::set(QUObject *, void const *)'
.libs/dcopclient.o: In function `DCOPClient::applicationRemoved(QCString const &)':
.libs/dcopclient.o(.text+0x8979): undefined reference to `static_QUType_varptr'
.libs/dcopclient.o(.text+0x8980): undefined reference to `QUType_varptr::set(QUObject *, void const *)'
.libs/dcopclient.o: In function `__static_initialization_and_destruction_0':
.libs/dcopclient.o(.text+0x8cea): undefined reference to `QMetaObjectCleanUp::QMetaObjectCleanUp(char const *, QMetaObject *(*)(void))'
.libs/dcopclient.o(.data+0x70): undefined reference to `static_QUType_varptr'
.libs/dcopclient.o(.data+0x8c): undefined reference to `static_QUType_varptr'
.libs/dcopclient.o: In function `QPtrList<DCOPObjectProxy>::replace(unsigned int, DCOPObjectProxy const *)':
.libs/dcopclient.o(.QPtrList<DCOPObjectProxy>::gnu.linkonce.t.replace(unsigned int, DCOPObjectProxy const *)+0x26): undefined reference to `QGList::replaceAt(unsigned int, void *)'
.libs/dcopclient.o: In function `QPtrList<DCOPClientTransaction>::replace(unsigned int, DCOPClientTransaction const *)':
.libs/dcopclient.o(.QPtrList<DCOPClientTransaction>::gnu.linkonce.t.replace(unsigned int, DCOPClientTransaction const *)+0x26): undefined reference to `QGList::replaceAt(unsigned int, void *)'
.libs/dcopclient.o: In function `QPtrList<_IceConn>::replace(unsigned int, _IceConn const *)':
.libs/dcopclient.o(.QPtrList<_IceConn>::gnu.linkonce.t.replace(unsigned int, _IceConn const *)+0x26): undefined reference to `QGList::replaceAt(unsigned int, void *)'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [libDCOP.la.closure] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/opt/src/kdelibs-3.1/dcop'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/opt/src/kdelibs-3.1/dcop'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/src/kdelibs-3.1'
make: *** [all] Error 2


anyone got a workaround ??
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startkde error
by anon on Wednesday 29/Jan/2003, @04:01
Can anyone help here?
[root@localhost lib]# startkde
startkde: Starting up...
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 2735, errno = 2
kdeinit: Communication error with launcher. Exiting!
kdeinit: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: FcPatternAddI
teger
startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.
Loading required GL library /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2
ksplash: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: FcInit
Warning: connect() failed: : Connection refused
Loading required GL library /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2
ksmserver: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: FcInit
startkde: Shutting down...
Warning: connect() failed: : Connection refused
Error: Can't contact kdeinit!
artsshell: /usr/lib/libasound.so.2: no version information available (required b
/usr/lib/libartsflow.so.1)
startkde: Running shutdown scripts...
startkde: Done.
[root@localhost lib]#
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Mandrake RPMS
by SimonW on Wednesday 29/Jan/2003, @04:18
Hi

The KDE 3.1 stuff looks great, the only problem I have is that I am stuck with Mandrake.

I bailed out on Redhat, after 5+ years, mainly because of its KDE policy, tried Debian for 1 year, great for servers, and moved to Mandrake 9 two months ago for better sound/video control. Now due to Mandrake's financial problems, no KDE3.1 rpms till March!

Options are
- build my own
- go back to debian
- try Suse

Any advice ?

Simon
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Panel Menu not functioning
by Uno Engborg on Wednesday 29/Jan/2003, @06:57
Hmm, strange I wonder what happened to the "Panel Menu" since RC6.
Now it seams that it is impossible to add applets to the panel.
Anybody else having this problem?
i
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