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Re: Button order
by Hongli Lai on Tuesday 04/Feb/2003, @09:55

Just listening to the user is not the answer either. You should do *both*: listen to the user *and* read litterature.
Reasons to read litterature too:
1) The user doesn't always know what he wants.
2) What the user *thinks* he want may not be what he really wants or the perfect solution. Humans are not aware of everything.
3) There are some things that can be done better, but the user is not (always) aware of them.

And the GNOME button layout is a bit confusing the first few weeks. But having used it for a while now, it really isn't that horrible.

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Re: Button order
by Aaron J. Seigo on Tuesday 04/Feb/2003, @11:29

and so those few weeks of annoyance resulted in having an interface decision that is livable? i'd rather avoid those few weeks if it isn't going to give me any real benefits. changes that don't provide real and noticeable improvement in usability but come at great retraining costs are hardly worth it, IMHO.

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Re: Button order
by oGALAXYo on Tuesday 04/Feb/2003, @14:59

And you think those who decide what the user wants are right yes ? They could be as wrong as you - by saying the stuff in point 2)

No offense but 'Never change a running System' and KDE run's perfectly so far the wide acceptance of users aknowledge this.

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Re: Button order
by Hongli Lai on Wednesday 05/Feb/2003, @03:06

They are not always right but neither are the users. For that reason, you should listen to users AND read litterature, make an idea and discuss it with others. ONLY listening to users or ONLY reading litterature are both bad.

Surely you already realize this, right?

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Re: Button order
by alex on Monday 10/Feb/2003, @04:58

sure. i at least certainly do, but the button ordering example is a
terrible one. using gnome2 default settings slowed me down, therefore
i switched back to kde. you think windows users are likely to go along
with it?, no way.

kde is about pleasing users _and_ showing them the right direction,
but going against the grain _isn't_ always the right thing and mac os
may has gotten some things right but this is just wrong.

the okay button is the most commonly used button of the two and the
mouse user in general centers on the middle of the dialog therefore
swapping the button positions will increase mouse movement and
make it thus very likely that the user will have much further to move.
there are far better ways of solving the rtl problem than making
everyone else suffer for it.

Alex

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