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Why not hire a real designer ? Was: Lovely Improve
by Marc on Sunday 02/Mar/2003, @02:52
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ack
Although I appreciate the work on the new site, I think it could really look a bit more professional, or simply not so "coulorful" and wild ...
As already said, the space between the lines would be a good point to fix. And what about the colors - the make the site look like a toy-store.
I'd suggest two long-term-solutions :
o) Hire a professional designer (or become one =)
o) Make a public contest, who can delivert the best site. And let the people choose.
Sorry, but this is my opinion ... :(
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Re: Lovely Improvement but...
by theorz on Sunday 02/Mar/2003, @18:33
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But big fonts are much more readable. Personally way to many sites make the mistake of looking good at the expense of usability.
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Re: Lovely Improvement but...
by Christoph Cullmann on Monday 03/Mar/2003, @01:06
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The question is simple: Why should we use the font size "small" instead of "normal" for the content text ? That size is relative to your settings, why enforce users which have set their "normal" textsize to something usable to use "small" and therefor perhaps "too small" text only because somebody can't configure his browser right ?
I think it is the way to go to use the "normal" font for any content and perhaps "small" for the menus (as we do, as menus should not take that much room in my eyes, they allready take enough). If the "normal" text is too big, you should ask yourself if you need to change your settings. I don't like it to have pages that break my settings and just enforce me to set my small font up to 10 or 12pt just to read some content only because their webmasters think it would be nice to enforce some small font for their whole page.
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Re: Lovely Improvement but...
by Steve on Monday 03/Mar/2003, @01:49
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I bet you're using IE, aren't you?
In Konqueror and Mozilla, you can explicitly set the preferred font size, but in IE you're restricted to View->Text Size. I couldn't find a way of changing "normal" in IE to be a smaller font size, and if I use "smaller" some sites are too small. IE has no minimum font size either.
I fixed it for me by not using IE. You can't do that for other people though, so on my sites I did this in the style sheet for IE users only:
body, td, th { font-size: 80%; }
All of the other font sizes must then be relative and not explicit (eg: "larger", "smaller" or "xx%" instead of "normal", "large" etc). Other elements will inherit the parent element's font size, and adjustments will be relative to the inherited size.
I think the KDE site would benefit from doing the same.
-- Steve
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Re: Lovely Improvement but...
by Jim Dabell on Monday 03/Mar/2003, @02:43
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You want to watch out when using hacks like that. The default font-size for IE 4 - 6 (in quirks mode) is small, which makes the 80% very small indeed.
If you only test in IE 6 (in standards-compliant mode), you won't catch this, as it uses the proper default, medium.
Why not just let your users view the site using the setting they want?
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