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Great going!!!
by Adriaan Putter on Monday 09/Jun/2003, @00:35
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Excellent work so far!!!
Can't wait for the groupware functionality to be added so that we can kick out this Exchange stuff. :)
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Impressed!
by Mystilleef on Monday 09/Jun/2003, @01:42
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Hello,
I was previously against the integration because I thought It might make the programs run slower when integrated and opposed to when each program runs individually. But I must assert, I'm impressed. Those who said Microsoft Outlook has no rival, should think again. Thanks the KDE PIM developers for a great work. I can only hope it's fast and it works flawlessly.
Regards,
Mystilleef
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KOrganizer part of Kontact
by Thomas on Monday 09/Jun/2003, @02:40
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Kontact is a great piece of work, thanks for this ueber-flexible thingy !
Last time I checked out Kontact from cvs I was hoping the most desired feature (by me) for KOrganizer got implemented already ...hmpf.., ok... not yet...
The feature list says "pinning of any mime type to an appointment or TODO Mark"
When I add an object (e.g. a pdf-file) to an appointment, is the actual pdf-file going to be stored in the calender? Or does KOrganizer only stores the URL to the file?
Adding the URL of a file to an appointment would totally suit my needs, it may even be the easier option to implement... But, what happens if you'd like to publish an appointment with attached pdf-file to somebody else? An URL pointing to a pdf-file on your local harddisc is not sufficient.
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will it use fetching mail in the background?
by joe on Monday 09/Jun/2003, @05:09
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Will it still block the UI when fetching mail, or will it use a separate thread?
Will there be an integration with the news reader knode?
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Tab Interface
by Jeff P. on Monday 09/Jun/2003, @06:58
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It's great what these developers are putting together. Integration is a good thing, if you can keep the program startup time just as fast as before.
I was looking at the interface and wondering one thing, though. It seems nowadays that users are used to tab interfaces in web browsers and IRC clients. Could this been a good place to expand on that and use it to switch between the integrated components of Kontact?
Keramik is a pretty bulky GUI style already, but when they had the sidebars (kinda like the mozilla sidebar I guess), it *really* makes it bulky. The sidebars really take up a lot of real estate.
Anyone else agree with me, or am I smokin some good stuff?
thanks,
jp
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the names
by will on Monday 09/Jun/2003, @07:46
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It is always great to see the progress done by the KDE-developers, but out of duty I must just point out for the millionth time that you really should choose names that doesn't depend on the k naming convention. It consistently results in ugly and clumsy names. First impressions matters disproportionatly much in relation to function, although I have a strong suspicion that you really haven't got an inkeling about what I am talking about here. To use an analogy, you might not use a lawyer who is showing up in a Hawaii shirt to your divorce meeting, even though he actually is quite capable.
Knowing what you people think about this, writing this feels like trolling. But I though I am tired of belaboring this issue, it needs to be done.
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Notes
by Kde User on Monday 09/Jun/2003, @08:20
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Is it possible to have the notes shown as small yellow papers (with the text on them) instead of icons?
Looks like a great app.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong ;-)
by cies on Monday 09/Jun/2003, @09:46
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Please correct me if I'm wrong ;-)
Kontact intergrates kmail, korganiser, knotes, etc. as kparts, right? So all programs can still be run individually.
Will this continue to be this way? Or will kontact eventually eat all the apps (and become a fat bastard)?
Cheers!
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So why did this work?
by Androgynous Howard on Monday 09/Jun/2003, @10:07
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So why does Kontact work when Aethera/Magellan/Pick fork this week fail?
Someone tell me the codebase sucked, but kmail isnt any diamond either.
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Suggestions to improve task separation
by tuxo on Monday 09/Jun/2003, @14:11
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Anybody else feeling not comfortable with the layout shown in the screenshots? What disturbs me is that the buttons to switch between the applications or tasks are actually integrated and look as being part of the current task (they are stacked together in a non-prominent way on the bottom left corner of the window. Compare this to e.g. evolution (http://www.ximian.com/products/evolution/screenshots.html), where the task switcher bar is placed to the very left and going from buttom to top. I feel that this is more intuitive.
Actually, I would even go as far as having the switcher bar going from the bottom to the very top so as to separate task better from each other, see the attached modified screenshot of evolution.
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Nice Work - Will this be in 3.2 or Sooner?
by J Taber on Monday 09/Jun/2003, @14:29
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Can't wait to use it - photo contacts are really nice and it's nice to put faces to the names of those we thank. will Kontact synch with my Palm Pilot?
btw - I like the K names - it makes it easy to identify a KDE program.
John
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I am also impressed!
by MArio on Monday 09/Jun/2003, @15:44
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Kontact is starting to become a worthy competitior to Evolution on the Linux platform.
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Does this work with kde3.1.2??
by Raj on Monday 09/Jun/2003, @16:47
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Hi All,
I want to get the latest cvs version of kontact and run it with my existing kde3.1.2. Is this possible, any pointers on how to do it would be highly appreciated.
Thanks
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I still just don't get it
by Metrol on Monday 09/Jun/2003, @20:10
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I'm staring at these screenshots and still scratching my head. I honestly don't understand why grouping these very seperate applications into one window with a huge chunk set aside for tabs makes this better. I guess I just don't see any relationship between an application for calendaring/scheduling and E-Mail. I really don't understand how KNotes fits into any of this.
I do appreciate the fact that the end game is an Outlook replacement. I never did understand the relationship of these apps in there either. I understand that at times you may want to send an appointment out through E-Mail, but I also send web links via Konqueror without having it all embedded into one application window.
This isn't just me trolling the site here. I honestly don't get it. All these apps getting rolled in here work beautifully as stand alone programs with pipes to eachother. I can see the need for better conversing between them, but do they have to all go in one window to accomplish this?
I am pretty slow on the uptake sometimes. I recall reading tech reviews raving about how IE was going to be used as the file manager. At the time I couldn't being to understand why someone would want that. I've never wanted to manage files while web browsing, or vice versa. Years later I still have never wanted to do this, nor have I run across users who wanted this either.
Perhaps this is a poor comparison, but from here it sure feels similar.
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Palm Pilot and distribution list support?
by Jason on Tuesday 10/Jun/2003, @02:33
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Does Kontact allow syncing with a Palm Pilot?
And have they finally added distribution lists or contact lists to kmail? Currently there seems to be no easy way of assigning a name to a list of contacts and it was one of the main reasons I switched to evolution.
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The app I've been waiting for
by Eron Lloyd on Tuesday 10/Jun/2003, @07:49
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Every time I get into a Linux discussion the subject of groupware comes up, and KDE is definately the best platform for this. The potential for contact is tremendous, but it will certainly be hard to compete with the reputation Evolution has established. Kontact firstly will need major UI polish, especially the calendaring. KOrganizer is very powerful, but the interface is quite clunky and seems to just be crammed together. The Evolution views are much more appealing. One thing I haven't heard anyone mention was Kopete integration. *That* would fantastic! I wish I was a C++ coder...I'd certainly pitch in.
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How to backup your data?
by IR on Tuesday 10/Jun/2003, @12:12
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How easy will backing up your data be?
When you use cron for making backups, how easy will it be to do a backup of all your 'groupware' data in one go? (mails, contacts, organizer etc.)
Same goes for restoring that data?
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Customisability
by Phoenix on Tuesday 10/Jun/2003, @15:16
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Please tell me that the layout will be more customisable than KMail currently is. For instance, can the preview pane be turned off?? Can the annoying panel on the left be disabled? If not, can we limit what appears in the left panel (for instance, only mail directories)?
If the layout is not customisable, then few people will want to use it. The whole "Outlook" layout is not productive.
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data in DBMS + web interface will make it perfect
by ianna on Thursday 12/Jun/2003, @03:02
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How PIM information are currently stored? Is it possible to have them stored on an RDBMS (postgres or MySQL preferred). This feature will simplify agenda sharing but also back-up in an Enterprise (where they don't want to have exchange).
Another value added could be the possibility to have a web interface to access to those data (again this could be easily done if data are stored in a RDBMS).
Ianna
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