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Wow.
by Miguel de Icaza on Thursday 12/Jun/2003, @22:01
I remember talking to you, but maybe you did not understand what I said. Because I can not picture myself saying `Mono is seven times better than .NET'. That is the first hint that you might have missed more than a few packets when we talked.

In fact, I *might* have said "Mono is on average 70% of the speed of .NET today", but claiming that Mono is better than .NET today would be a colossal stretch of the word "seven". More like "point seven" ;-)

I do not remember the details, but I think you might have been the dude that showed me a screen and said something like `Isnt this better than Gnome', and I said `I dont think so, Gnome is a lot more usable'. So your representation of what I said if fairly inaccurrate.

I also dont think this is about being a "god" or not, but I do remember that you were slightly antagonistic towards me (if you are that dude from the VIP room). I said at some point `The important thing is that we both work on free software'. You might have been the Quanta dude, I dont know. I dont remember. It was an intense week.

If you get a trasncript of my talk, you might realize that I probably spoke about different things than you thought ;-)

Miguel
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possible misunderstanding
by Ben Stevens on Thursday 12/Jun/2003, @22:50
I'm curious: At the convention, did you guys speak together in English, Portuguese, or Spanish? And based on that, could there maybe have been a little bit of a language barrier? Mistranslation is always a good source of misquotes.
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  • Re: possible misunderstanding
    by Miguel de Icaza on Friday 13/Jun/2003, @07:05
    It is very possible that this was the case, because I honestly had nothing to wine from being mean to people.

    I do not remember, but most people I met did not speak english, so I typically talked in slow spanish, and they talked back to me in portuguese, portuguese with spanish or english.

    I have to say, I loved the conference. It was a very community-oriented conference of *users*, so unlike a trade show, everyone in the conference behaved like they were old friends.

    In one hand: the conference was very large (I do not know the numbers), but they had multiple tracks, and the place was huge, and everywhere you went, it was crowded. And they had a section for community sites, that was fascinating: local groups sharing code, sharing ideas, sharing jokes.

    Part of what made this conference awesome was that Marcelo (the organizer) has tried to make not only a conference about free software, but has worked to get other social movements involved, so there was a strong presence from other activist groups that might benefit from free software.

    So unlike other conferences, I would say that the "spirirt" of the World Social Forum (which was held for three years in Porto Alegre) was present in the conference. Ideas revolving not only around technology, but around social change, and the motto of "Another world is possible" being transpired everywhere.

    The kind of energy I witnessed here is hard to find in trade shows today; The LinuxExpo in Paris and the HispaLinux congress in Madrid are probably the closest to the community feeling they got here. But as I said, the organizers had a people-networking mindset, which was absolutely awesome.

    Love,
    Miguel.
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