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  Trolltech to release Qt/Mac GPL
Qt Posted by binner on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @05:23
from the friends-of-kde dept.
Trolltech announced today that they will release a GPL version of Qt/Mac on June 23rd at the Apple's World Wide Developer Conference (WWDC) 2003 in San Francisco taking their successful dual licensing strategy for Qt/X11 to the Mac. Also the upcoming Qt Script for Applications (QSA), Trolltech's scripting toolkit for Qt-based applications, will be available under a dual license on Mac OS X. Sam Magnuson from Trolltech already got much of KDE building on Qt/Mac a while ago (screenshots showing Konqueror, Kontact, Games and KOffice). The new license now offered allows to distribute binary builds of KDE for Qt/Mac soon.


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This is welcome news...
by Ian Reinhart Geiser on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @06:10
As we all know, Unix on the desktop is about 1% and MacOS (in general here, i think OSX came in like 1.5%-2% this was talked about last year on the MacApp list) is about 4% of the desktop... Macintosh has had a looooong history of open/free/shareware software (Hyperarchive anyone?) so this is going to be a welcome path for developers to port KDE apps to MacOSX and MOST importantly port MacOSX apps to KDE!

Anyway, now Im happy because now native KWord can ship on OSX, not that it matters because their Xlib vesion has flawless printing, and AA fonts, still native is cool :)

Cheers
-ian reinhart geiser
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Wonderful News!!
by pret on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @07:02
This is real welcome and great news. It means several things.

1). KDE apps running natively on OSX without X. Yummm! I've been running KDE apps in OSX through fink for a while now-- they work well, but it'd work so much better, and natively, through Qt/Mac.

2). It would be easier for MacOSX developers, such as Apple, to use KDE technologies, such as khtml. :)


Mad love and props to TrollTech!!
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Cool...
by Datschge on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @07:03
This is the best time to start a UI revision team improving KDE programs' UI by creating .ui files of suggestions. I expect something like that to work best with OSX users since they tend to be very picky about UI's. Let's take that opportunity. ;)
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Knew this would happen sooner or later
by John on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @07:33
In fact, I could tell when people from TrollTech started to port parts of KDE to Qt/Mac :)

Now, ask yourself, why would they do that? KDE is a huge way to show off what Qt can do, and porting it to Qt/Mac would undoubatly get more buyers of the commercial Qt/Mac.

Thanks Trolls!
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QT+KDE
by Apollo Creed on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @09:34
"Hell, let's just merge Qt and KDE, release for all platforms and be done with it."

That's not a statement from the in-charge-guy at Qt, but I wish it was. ;)
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Can this be used for a non-GPL feasibility study?
by Rob on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @10:36
I need to port a Win32 app to the Mac.

I started a feasibility study of using wxWindows to do this, but their Mac port is a little too behind the curve to use at this point.

Could the same study be done with the GPL'd QT/Mac? I sort of remember QT's stance being that you couldn't use the GPL'd version unless you're writing GPL'd code - even if you're willing to pay up before releasing your code.

My problem is, without a feasibility demo, I can't get my company to spring for commercial QT, but the company's even less likely to commit to GPL - especially for the purposes of said feasibility demo. I need to operate below the radar at this point, and a strict GPL requirement would make this impolssible.

Any comments?
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GPL only
by David Johnson on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @10:55
From the announcement, this appears to be GPL only. It is not the X11 GPL/QPL licensing. What this means is that non-GPL but still 100% Free Software applications cannot use it. Examples of stuff you CANNOT port to GPL Qt/Mac include Cervisia, Kicker, and PixiePlus.

Please, Trolltech, offer this under the QPL as well. It makes absolutely no sense to have to purchase the proprietary version of Qt in order to distribute Open Source Software.
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QT Script?
by Charles on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @12:31
Is QT Script comparable to VB Script/Visial Basic? Where are the tutorials? I think it's time to learn it. Can I use Kommander and utilize QT script behind the scenes to do useful stuff with databases the way I use VB/Access in the MS world?
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Looks cool
by Mike Hearn on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @13:57
Good to see the GPLd Qt get more powerful! One question - is that just a Mac-style skin it's using in those screenshots, or is it actually using native widgets?

It kind of looks a bit, hmm, messy? Hard to describe. It looks like it is using a skin though....
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wonderful news
by mart on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @14:06
qt is a wonderful toolkit, hearing that it will become free for another platform is wonderful, but i continue hoping a gpl version also for windows. I don't know if trolltech is planning to do this, but it would be a great thing it would present kde and other qt application to the great public.
And imagine a kde windows desktop where will be hard to recognize if it is windows or linux, great interoperability and it would be easier to switch.
ok, ok, stop dreaming :-)
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My dream ...
by AC on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @15:17
Wouldn't it be nice if TT could LGPL the core part of QT (hopefully on all platforms)? Only the part the KDE libs link against. That would ease the adoption (w.r.t. to the LGPL GTK libs) and they would not loose their business case and could keep all the database / motif / whatever exotic QT-stuff separate GPL/commercial.
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So, CLX next?
by blaising mark on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @20:24
Imagine Kylix for OS X! that's based on Qt.
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Arg!
by Shamyl Zakariya on Wednesday 18/Jun/2003, @06:44
I've spent the last 4 months porting a fair amount (> 15 kloc) of qt code to std c++ on the backend (removing *all* qt, and writing my own classes that map to qt's classes where needed) and rewriting the gui in native cocoa/objective-c.

And now I discover it was completely unnecessary!

Arg! :P
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Great, what I want to read next is ...
by Manfred Tremmel on Thursday 19/Jun/2003, @02:48
Great, what I want to read next is: "Apple integrates QT into next MacOS X version", that would be wunderfull.
I hope Unix/Linux community will profit form the QT-port, too, not only Mac users.
With CUPS integration into MacOS X I thougt, now it's easy to shipp MacOS and Linux drivers with all printers, but only MacOS X drivers are shipped.
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Will there ever Win32 port of Konqueror?
by Fredrik on Thursday 19/Jun/2003, @06:00
Or is it held hostage by the lack of a Win32 GPL version?
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I am compiling Qt/Mac as we speak...
by Xslf on Tuesday 24/Jun/2003, @07:44
anyone know of docs on how to build KDE against this version?

Thanks
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