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Re: This is welcome news...
by Rayiner Hashem on Wednesday 18/Jun/2003, @01:25

They use Carbon, after all, which isn't really native like Cocoa is. Besides, I think the only reason the KDE screenshots look like they're using a skin is because the KDE toolbars don't fit the OS X look very well.

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Re: This is welcome news...
by fault on Wednesday 18/Jun/2003, @09:13

> They use Carbon, after all, which isn't really native like Cocoa is.

Yeah, Qt/Mac uses Carbon, but this doesn't matter anymore in since MacOSX 10.1.5. Both Cocoa and Carbon in 10.1.5 (and 10.2.x) go through the Appearance Manager before being sent to the Window Compositing Manager. Back in 10.0.x and 10.1.0-4, Carbon apps often looked similiar to Cocoa apps, but had "one pixel off"-type of problems that didn't always make them feel like Cocoa apps. This isn't true anymore and you're likely not to notice the difference.

Apple did a real great job with this after initially blundering it up in the initial release(s) of OSX. It's a good model that Microsoft didn't follow between win16 and win32.

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