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Re: GPL only
by David Johnson on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @13:40
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| I don't want to distribute my Qt app as closed source. I want to distribute it as 100% BSD licensed Free Software. I want to distribute my software with zero restrictions, but Trolltech is telling me that their "free" software requires that I restrict the rights of my users. |
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Re: GPL only
by tuxo on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @15:03
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GPL doesn't restict the right of users, on the contrary, it protects users by not allowing companies to come along and integrate the open source code into their products and close it down into proprietary lock-in software as is unfortunately possible with BSD-style licences.
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Re: GPL only
by hydralisk on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @15:35
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Basically, the GPL restricts the freedom of people to restrict the freedom of others.
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Re: GPL only
by David Johnson on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @16:06
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When it is not allowed for my users to use my software because Qt/Mac is GPL-only, then the GPL is indeed restricting the rights of my users.
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Re: GPL only
by tuxo on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @17:46
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You will restrict the rights of a minority of users that are up to no good and preserve the freedom for the rest. I prefer freedom over lock-in anytime.
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Re: GPL only
by Michael Greer on Tuesday 17/Jun/2003, @22:41
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The GPL asserts absolutely no controls over the rights of end users. It is not a use, but a distribution license. It does affect your rights as a developer if you want to use their code. I think you may be using the word "rights" incorrectly here, to mean "business desires."
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Re: GPL only
by Stephen Douglas on Wednesday 18/Jun/2003, @02:34
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No, nobody is beiong restricted - you are perfectly free to not use Qt at all.
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Re: GPL only
by protoman on Wednesday 18/Jun/2003, @03:41
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Well said. I can't understand people complaining about Trolltech desisions.
Trolltech is free to, to make the decisions they like or think are right, this includes excluding other licences other than GPL.
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Re: GPL only
by David Johnson on Wednesday 18/Jun/2003, @11:02
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<snip>I can't understand people complaining about Trolltech desisions.</snip>
When Microsoft recently released a license that said in essence "you can't use the GPL", the community was outraged. But when Trolltech says "you must use the GPL" it's okay. I don't see the fundamental difference between the two.
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Re: GPL only
by protoman on Wednesday 18/Jun/2003, @11:35
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Yep, agreed.
I think M$ should release anything they have in any license they wish, if this don't brake the law (or previous licenses), I don't see why so much complaining arround there.
And remember people defends GPL agains the "viral" speech from M$ but attacks m$ right to do the shared source....
I don't like BSD, I think it's bad (don't worry to reply about this, keep reading...), but that just me. I won't even say anything besides this from anyone who wants to use BSD, and I must always enphasis the "I" in the statement. Simply saying BSD is bad/GPL is bad isn't a nice thing, always remember it's just YOUR option and fights will diminish or vanish.
Peace people!
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Re: GPL only
by tuxo on Thursday 19/Jun/2003, @06:31
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>But when Trolltech says "you must use the GPL" it's okay. I don't see the >fundamental difference between the two.
The difference is that forcing GPL serves many people, while not allowing GPL serves mainly one big company, in this case M$.
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