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Great news!
by Mario on Thursday 19/Jun/2003, @10:54
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THis is very good news that Linux is getting so many excellent office programs like Koffice 1.3, Abiword 2, and OO.org, now I think that ina year Linux will certainly be ready for the msot demanding fo offices =)
Speaking of OO.org too, there is a plan for GNOME to leave Goffice in the dust ofr it and integrate it into GNOME etc.
Check out this interesting document on it: http://primates.ximian.com/~michael/guadec-ooo-2003/img0.html lots of cool changes too, and I think it makes some important points, but I am not suggesting that KDE ditch Kofice and go OO.org because Koffice is already quite mature just a little better integration with KDE. The OO.org quicstarter is a great step in bette integration =)
There's a lot of cool stuff in th office department for linux =) and windows I guess with Office 2003.
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by Andreas on Thursday 19/Jun/2003, @11:42
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I was reading news with Knode on "news.uslinuxtraining.com" but some weeks couldn't read any news over KDE projekts.
Can sombody verify this or do somthing else on this.
greets andreas
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KOffice 1.3: My final migration to KOffice
by Mystilleef on Thursday 19/Jun/2003, @12:27
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I think I'll finally migrate from OpenOffice to KOffice with the release of the final stable version of KOffice 1.3. I find KOffice to be way more responsive than OpenOffice is, at least on KDE. And thank God for the PDF and OpenOffice.org filters. It is really thoughtful of the developers. Good Job guys!
Regards,
Mystilleef
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Krita...
by tuxo on Thursday 19/Jun/2003, @12:31
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Is it dead? :-(
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What I would like to see
by jb on Thursday 19/Jun/2003, @12:46
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Basically I have two problems with KOffice:
1) The lack of standard file formats in the free software world. There was some talk about an oasis standard based on OpenOffice (which seems to be the most widespread free word processor today), but has anything happened? Office work has a lot to gain from Linux desktops but interoperability between them, say with a clean Bluecurve or Ximian professional desktop, must be perfect.
2) The sad state of interoperability with proprietary Microsoft Office solutions. Again, OpenOffice seems to be state of the art here. There was some promising work with wvlib, did anything come out of that? Is OpenOffice a completely indepedent codebase?
I would guess the easiest way to hack together a working solution would be to rip out the filters from OpenOffice to use in KOffice, and start using their document format right away. Has there been any progress with that?
(As I could understand, the filters mentioned in the article are just export/import filters for OpenOffice documents from/to the KOffice semi-proprietary ones.)
It is somewhat amusing that not only do we have two major Linux desktops projects out there, but that the most widespread killer apps out there (OpenOffice and Mozilla) belong to neither. The latter is almost a desktop environment of its own. I hope all this experimentation will be fruitful for free software on the desktop for the masses in the long run!
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"KOffice 1.3 Beta 1 Released"
by Victor R. Ruiz on Thursday 19/Jun/2003, @13:01
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Beta 1 or Beta 2?
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KD Chart?
by Anonymous on Thursday 19/Jun/2003, @13:05
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I see that Klarälvdalens Datakonsult AB (http://www.klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se/) has finally released KD Chart (http://www.klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se/kdchart/).
Is this version incorporated into this release of KOffice? Based on their comment it is: "It is no coincidence that the current version of the KOffice productivity suite uses our library." If so, is it available as a separate library? I thought that at one time a saw on their website that KD would make this available to the open source community.
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KOffice not as multi OS as OpenOffice
by Fredrik C on Thursday 19/Jun/2003, @15:39
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Koffice is certainly nice but it's still just portable between platforms that has a GPL'd QT version. This only amounts to a fraction of the potential market, thus hindering OS adoption and the freedom for the community. If the Trolls are worried about loosing in-house development revenue then can't they add restrictions for commercial in-house development?
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PDF import filters?
by David Fraser on Thursday 19/Jun/2003, @23:45
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The paged linked as "PDF import filter" says nothing about PDF ...
Does this import PDF into KWord?
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What is the problem...
by cies on Friday 20/Jun/2003, @02:25
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What is the problem with using a lot of stuff from OOo?
- that OOo libs should be used then? (instead of KDE libs)
- licening problems?
- ??
KOffice could ditch their own native format and adopt OOo's format as native. Use OOo filters, maybe even use (parts) of OOo's canvas(es). _IF_ this is possible it would help the end-user a lot. The opendesktops can use KOffice the Win-tops can use OOo...
I know this has often been proposed, but i cant remember what was the main reason against it.
-Cies
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Re: What is the problem...
by cies on Friday 20/Jun/2003, @04:31
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> If you want OOo
Yes I want OOo, al least right now. In need M$Office compatibility. Kword only shows the simpelest of M$Word files right.
But I dont like all aspects of OOo, it has several disadvantages -- we all know (slow, big, alien-look).
> (and not use KDE technology)
I like KDE tech, a lot. Maybe i even love it ;-)
> why don't you use OOo?
So currently I am. Hopefully in the furure I'll have some thing slicker ;-)
Note: my post was not a troll, I wanted to know what is the _problem_ for using OOo code. It's both C++. (I _think_ it is the libs that are used)
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look
by Giovanni Masucci on Friday 20/Jun/2003, @09:04
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What about the koffice icons project?
I heard that everaldo was involved in that project.
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Kivio import filters for Visio .vsd files
by KDE User on Friday 20/Jun/2003, @11:35
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Nice to see lots of activity with Kivio. Any chance for Kivio import filters for Visio files (*.vsd) ? How about exporting a Kivio screen to pdf?
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OO and KOffice Will Co-Exist....
by David on Friday 20/Jun/2003, @15:10
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When we get a standardized Office DTP format that both KOffice and OO can use it won't matter what you use. The days of locking people into software through particular formats are over. Anyone know what the status of the Oasis format is with KOffice?
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Beta 2??
by James Richard Tyrer on Saturday 21/Jun/2003, @14:34
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I do hope thatt here will be at least a Beta 3 because AFAICS, printing in KOffice still needs a lot of work:
http://lists.kde.org/?l=koffice-devel&m=105609957315405&w=2
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60105
--
JRT
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PDF editing
by Swoosh on Monday 23/Jun/2003, @02:39
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What´s really the deal with the PDF import filter? What is the intended use once it matures enough? I'm asking as I really miss a good replacement for the Adobe Acrobat program (You know edit PDF-files, merge documets, re-arrange etc) in the KDE/Linux world. Should I get my hopes up?
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