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I fully agree...
by Datschge on Thursday 19/Jun/2003, @17:57
"Quite often these even contain deleted text. :-("

We should inform everyone about that fact, people using Microsoft Office then might consider switching or at least using a sensible format (even though I personally enjoy seeing all the document changes a Microsoft document went through ;o).
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Re: I fully agree...
by fault on Thursday 19/Jun/2003, @19:13
Most deleted text in office documents come from the "Quick Save" feature (either that, or from track changes..).. If this is on, Office basically writes documents as a series of diffs. It's completely transparent to the end user, and usually works well. However....

while Quick Save might have made saving files lightening fast on my 16 mhz Apple IIci with Microsoft Word 4.0, I'm not sure why Microsoft still defaults to it. It actually balloons files to several times their original size.

Quick Saved' files also are much harder for foreign importers in other apps such as OOo and koffice to open.

A good way to disable Quick Save in Office is to simply use the "save as.." command instead of save.
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  • Re: I fully agree...
    by AySee on Friday 20/Jun/2003, @01:18
    Let's look at it from an MS point of view ...

    If you are charged with increasing Office market share, what will be your first decision?

    1. To make MS Office documents easier to convert to open source alternatives?
    2. To make it more difficult for open source alternatives to read MS documents?

    Gee, let me think now :)

    Remember that OS/2 had such great MS application support that people were able to run MS apps under OS/2. So migrating to MS was made very easy.

    Why do you think MS hasn't made it possible to mount Linux partitions under Windows? (It is possible, but only through third-party add-ons). The same thing could happen to MS.

    I will be totally suprised to see MS make their document format open to the world.
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    • Re: I fully agree...
      by James Richard Tyrer on Friday 20/Jun/2003, @11:23
      Your point is correct, but I would also point out that the answer to the question depends on whether you have a monopoly.

      If you have less than 50% of the market, it appears that the opposite is the case -- that it is to your advantage to have your WordProcessor file format a published standard.

      --
      JRT
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