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Re: What I would like to see
by Debian User on Friday 20/Jun/2003, @06:07
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No, we need not.
The overall benefit of using KGX is someday going to be big enough to make people switch for it.
If not that, nothing else is going to make it.
If you have time to volunteer to making any of the office product import/export better the MS formats, then spend it.
Otherwise, please allow everybody else to do what is fun for THEM. Which may very well be improving the Office they already use.
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Re: What I would like to see
by fault on Friday 20/Jun/2003, @06:59
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> The overall benefit of using KGX is someday going to be big enough to make people switch for it.
Of course, one of the problems is that in order for things like Koffice to be mainstream and supplant MS Office, it needs to have strong compatability with the latter. This is how WordPerfect supplanted WordStar, and how MS Word supplanted WordPerfect as the premier word processing application.
> Otherwise, please allow everybody else to do what is fun for THEM. Which may very well be improving the Office they already use.
Agreed.
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Re: What I would like to see
by James Richard Tyrer on Saturday 21/Jun/2003, @14:56
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> This is how WordPerfect supplanted WordStar, and how MS Word supplanted WordPerfect as the premier word processing application.
Didn't WordPerfect like -- ah -- buy WordStar?
So, please tell us why compatibility is needed.
I have tried to explain why it is NOT.
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Re: What I would like to see
by lit on Saturday 21/Jun/2003, @20:43
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> Didn't WordPerfect like -- ah -- buy WordStar
Nope-- never. Both WordPerfect and WordStar ended up in the hands of Corel however. Corel licensed the code for WordStar from Softkey (which became the Learning Company) in 1994, deciding to make a office suite to compete with WordPerfect and Office. They bungled this up, although they did successfully launch another licensed product that became CorelDraw :)
> So, please tell us why compatibility is needed.
Ah, that's easy. Think of it this way: you have an office full of people who have hard drives full of Microsoft Word documents. This particular office has been using MS Office only since about ~1997 (as many have). They have, over the years, piled up a nice collection of full of floppies, hard drives, zips, and DAT drives full of MS Office documents. Depending on what this-place-of-buisness does, it may mean important records, letters, documents, books, presentations, spreadsheets, etc...
So... one day, the IT manager at this particular office goes: "Alright guys.. Money is getting tight. We don't want to pay Microsoft for the next round of licensing for the next Office version. We either are going to stick with our current older version of Microsoft Office or transition into another office suite. Most companies will pick option A, which explains the lack of market prenetation of perfectly capable MS-compatable office suites such as StarOffice.
However, if they do decide to go with another office suite, do you think they going to pick YaYaOffice (which has great MS Office compatablity) or JujujuOffice which has very little MS Office document compatablity?
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Re: What I would like to see
by James Richard Tyrer on Saturday 21/Jun/2003, @21:37
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> Both WordPerfect and WordStar ended up in the hands of Corel ...
And then there was no more WordStar. Which was my point, but thank you for correcting my hazy recollection of the exact history.
>> So, please tell us why compatibility is needed.
> Ah, that's easy. Think of it this way: you have an office full of people who have hard drives full of Microsoft Word documents.
Yes, they have hard drives full of old MicroSoft Word documents.
So, please tell us why they need a MS Word compatible wordprocessor? :-)
To make this clear. In order to show why a compatible wordprocessor is *needed*, you need to show why there is a need to ever open these OLD documents in any wordprocessor.
Keeping old finished documents that will never be edited again in a wordprocessor's native format is a sloppy habit that we should get over.
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Re: What I would like to see
by Mike Petrie on Thursday 24/Jul/2003, @19:28
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> > Both WordPerfect and WordStar ended up in the hands of Corel ...
> And then there was no more WordStar. Which was my point, but thank
> you for correcting my hazy recollection of the exact history
Actually that's not quite correct. Corel started on a 32-bit version of WordStar for Windows, but abandoned it when Word Perfect became available. WordStar never changed hands and is now owned by either Gores or River Deep - I don't think they're even sure of who owns it. The history, as far as it goes, is on my Web site at http://www.wordstar.org/wordstar/history/history.htm
> So, please tell us why they need a MS Word compatible wordprocessor? :-)
They don't - but they DO, most definately need to be able to view and print, and maybe edit those old MS files.
You'd be surprised at the number of people you contact me and say something along the lines of:
"My dad wrote our family history using WordStar. I don't know
which version, but I want to read those old files into Word.
Can you help me."
Once a document has been written and printed once there's no reason why, in a year's time, or maybe even ten, why someone shouldn't want to print it again. To do this you need a program that can view and print the document. Of course, if every document gets printed to Acrobat format, while that remains a standard, there's no problem - but most documents aren't printed this way.
Any word processor these days MUST support Microsoft's RTF as an absolute minimum. Being able to acurately read and convert Word 2, 6, and 9x documents would also be an imense advantage. If you acn also read - correctly - word perfect and WordStar documents you've increased your potential sales. If in addition you canthen provide a keyboard commend set that replicates Word Perfect or WordStar you've increased your possible market again!
Cheers
Mike
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