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Re: What's in a name?
by Navindra Umanee on Wednesday 10/Sep/2003, @16:45
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What is brockenboring anyway? Someone clue me in!
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Re: What's in a name?
by cm on Thursday 11/Sep/2003, @15:20
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Here's the thread:
http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=105661334918305&w=2
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Re: What's in a name?
by MK on Thursday 11/Sep/2003, @02:06
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I think that coolo once mentioned that "brockenborin" is a city in GB, not sure though.
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Re: What's in a name?
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday 11/Sep/2003, @05:44
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This is a definitive list of all cities in Great Britain:
Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire
Bangor, Caernarfonshire
Bath, Somerset
Birmingham, Warwickshire
Bradford, Yorkshire
Brighton & Hove, Sussex
Bristol, Gloucestershire
Cambridge, Cambridgeshire
Canterbury, Kent
Cardiff, Glamorganshire
Carlisle, Cumberland
Chester, Cheshire
Chichester, Sussex
Coventry, Warwickshire
Derby, Derbyshire
Dundee, Angus
Durham, County Durham
Edinburgh, Midlothian
Ely, Cambridgeshire
Exeter, Devon
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Gloucester, Gloucestershire
Hereford, Herefordshire
Inverness, Invernessshire
Kingston-upon-Hull, Yorkshire
Lancaster, Lancashire
Leeds, Yorkshire
Leicester, Leicestershire
Lichfield, Staffordshire
Lincoln, Lincolnshire
Liverpool, Lancashire
London, Middlesex
Manchester, Lancashire
Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland
Newport, Monmouthshire
Norwich, Norfolk
Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
Oxford, Oxfordshire
Peterborough, Northamptonshire
Plymouth, Devon
Portsmouth, Hampshire
Preston, Lancashire
Ripon, Yorkshire
Salford, Lancashire
Salisbury, Wiltshire
Sheffield, Yorkshire
Southampton, Hampshire
St Albans, Hertfordshire
St David's, Pembrokeshire
Stirling, Stirlingshire
Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire
Sunderland, County Durham
Swansea, Glamorganshire
Truro, Cornwall
Wakefield, Yorkshire
Wells, Somerset
Westminster, Middlesex
Winchester, Hampshire
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Worcester, Worcestershire
York, Yorkshire
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Re: What's in a name?
by Richard Moore on Thursday 11/Sep/2003, @07:59
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Unfortunately that list puts lots of cities in the wrong counties. So it's not really definitive. eg. Newcastle-upon-tyne is in Tyne and Wear not Northumberland, Manchester is a county in itself (Greater Manchester) etc.
Rich.
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Re: What's in a name?
by Jan on Thursday 11/Sep/2003, @08:30
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And where is Belfast? Isn't that in GB?
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Re: What's in a name?
by anonymous bastard on Thursday 11/Sep/2003, @09:26
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I believe that Northern Ireland doesn't count as GB, even though it's in the UK.
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Re: What's in a name?
by Chris Howells on Thursday 11/Sep/2003, @16:33
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Quoting from my passport, "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".
So Belfast is in Northern Ireland, while Wales, Scotland and England are in Great Britain. But all of them are in the United Kingdom. Nice and simple isn't it :)
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Re: What's in a name?
by Ed Moyse on Friday 12/Sep/2003, @23:56
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It's pretty simple. Great Britain is the largest island of the British Isles ... so Scotland, England and Wales are in (on?) Great Britain. So the countries of Great Britain, and the province of Northern Ireland together are known as the United Kingdom. Just remember that Great Britain is an island, and used as the collective name for the countries within it, and it all makes sense!
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Re: What's in a name?
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday 02/Oct/2003, @07:10
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You are mixing up administrative areas with counties.
Northumberland, Lancashire, etc have existed for close on a thousand years.
Then in 1888 administrative areas (or county councils) were formed that shared the same boundaries as the counties. It's these administrative areas that have been messed around with, not the ancient counties they were based on. In the case of the two administrative areas you speak of 'Tyne & Wear' and 'Greater Manchester' were created in 1974 and abolished in 1985. Eleven years of existance of a council area does not change close to a thousand years of where a place is!!!
There is a lot more info at http://www.abcounties.co.uk
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Re: What's in a name?
by Jon on Monday 24/Nov/2003, @11:38
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Peterborough is in Cambridgeshire
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Re: What's in a name?
by Olly on Wednesday 26/Nov/2003, @02:30
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No, it's not: geographically, Peterborough is in the county of Northamptonshire (with the exception of those suburbs situated south of the Nene, which are in the county of Huntingdonshire); always has been (well, since AD 1011, anyway), always will be.
What is true, though, is that Peterborough has been in a number of different *administrative* areas since formal local government was created in 1888. However, administrative areas (including "administrative counties") are NOT the same as counties. Here is a potted history of Peterborough's top-tier local government:
►1889-1965: Peterborough was in the administrative county of the Soke of Peterborough (described in the Local Government Act 1888 as a division of the geographical county of Northamptonshire).
►1965-1974: Soke of Peterborough CC was merged with Huntingdonshire CC (as both authorities were deemed too small for local government purposes) to create Huntingdon & Peterborough CC.
►1974-1998: Huntingdon & Peterborough CC was merged with Cambridgeshire & Isle of Ely CC to form "Cambridgeshire" CC.
►1998- : Peterborough City Council was made a unitary authority, independent of Cambridgeshire CC.
As you can see, residents of Peterborough have been subject to rather confusing local government arrangements over the years, with three major local government changes over the last four decades: isn't it simpler just to use the geographical county, safe in the knowledge that this will never change?!
For everything except local government, Peterborough is in NORTHAMPTONSHIRE.
If you'd like more information about the counties of Great Britain (and how they differ from administrative areas), please visit http://www.abcounties.co.uk
Olly =)
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Re: What's in a name?
by dOxxx on Thursday 11/Sep/2003, @09:51
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I thought it was a play on the IKEA slogan "unböring"...
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