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Re: What's in a name?
by Richard Moore on Thursday 11/Sep/2003, @07:59
Unfortunately that list puts lots of cities in the wrong counties. So it's not really definitive. eg. Newcastle-upon-tyne is in Tyne and Wear not Northumberland, Manchester is a county in itself (Greater Manchester) etc.

Rich.
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Re: What's in a name?
by Jan on Thursday 11/Sep/2003, @08:30
And where is Belfast? Isn't that in GB?
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  • Re: What's in a name?
    by anonymous bastard on Thursday 11/Sep/2003, @09:26
    I believe that Northern Ireland doesn't count as GB, even though it's in the UK.
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  • Re: What's in a name?
    by Chris Howells on Thursday 11/Sep/2003, @16:33
    Quoting from my passport, "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".

    So Belfast is in Northern Ireland, while Wales, Scotland and England are in Great Britain. But all of them are in the United Kingdom. Nice and simple isn't it :)
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    • Re: What's in a name?
      by Ed Moyse on Friday 12/Sep/2003, @23:56
      It's pretty simple. Great Britain is the largest island of the British Isles ... so Scotland, England and Wales are in (on?) Great Britain. So the countries of Great Britain, and the province of Northern Ireland together are known as the United Kingdom. Just remember that Great Britain is an island, and used as the collective name for the countries within it, and it all makes sense!
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Re: What's in a name?
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday 02/Oct/2003, @07:10
You are mixing up administrative areas with counties.
Northumberland, Lancashire, etc have existed for close on a thousand years.
Then in 1888 administrative areas (or county councils) were formed that shared the same boundaries as the counties. It's these administrative areas that have been messed around with, not the ancient counties they were based on. In the case of the two administrative areas you speak of 'Tyne & Wear' and 'Greater Manchester' were created in 1974 and abolished in 1985. Eleven years of existance of a council area does not change close to a thousand years of where a place is!!!

There is a lot more info at http://www.abcounties.co.uk
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