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  Lord Of The Rings Wields Our Precious
KDE Success Story Posted by Navindra Umanee on Friday 28/Nov/2003, @20:23
from the gollum-versus-jar-jar-binks dept.
To the surprise of many, KDE turns up unexpectedly on the extended DVD edition of The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers. Dan, Robert and Antonio were the first of several to point out that KDE was clearly being used by Weta Digital (likely on IBM Linux Intellistations) in an animation shot with Gollum and Sam. This isn't the first time KDE has been spotted either on the silver screen, television, or being used behind the scenes of Hollywood.


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well now...
by standsolid on Friday 28/Nov/2003, @21:52
This has just about puched me over hte edge of buying this DVD set... must.....have......movie.........features.........extra.....kde.......
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Great!
by George Staikos on Friday 28/Nov/2003, @22:46
It's always nice to see examples of KDE in the real world, doing real things for real people. Not just us hackers writing a desktop to use to write a desktop to use to write a desktop to use to ....
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What's the app
by rizzo on Friday 28/Nov/2003, @22:50
What is the app being used to model Golum?
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  • Re: What's the app
    by Philippe on Saturday 29/Nov/2003, @00:28
    blender ?? refactored for the lotr ?
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  • Re: What's the app
    by eyeballkid on Saturday 29/Nov/2003, @01:20
    It's Maya (http://www.alias.com).
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    • Re: What's the app
      by anonymous on Saturday 29/Nov/2003, @01:47
      Hmmm, yes they use Maya. But what another graphic app do they use on Linux plattform?
      Gimp, Photoshop (w/cxoffice), VMware?
      I don't think they have only one app (Maya) for one PC with Linux. I think Maya is useless if I can't change some textures with ??gimp??photoshop?? on the same machine!?
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      • Re: What's the app
        by rinse on Saturday 29/Nov/2003, @04:29
        Perhaps they use CinePaint as well?
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      • Re: What's the app
        by Calle on Saturday 29/Nov/2003, @05:12
        My guess is that they useed Photoshop with Crossover Office. I heard that the US Film Idustry paid Codeweavers $100000 to make it work with Crossover.
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        • Re: What's the app
          by a.c. on Saturday 29/Nov/2003, @05:58
          It would be nice to see that money used to enhance GIMP to compete against Photoshop iff Adobe is not really going to port it.

          While I support Commercial software (I will but it iff I like it and will not use it otherwise), I do think that we need alternatives if these companies are not coming over.
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          • Re: What's the app
            by kjd on Sunday 30/Nov/2003, @20:32
            From their perspective, having the exact same application running on either platform may be a greater advantage than having a native, free application that is somewhat different. Pretty much everyone in the industry knows Photoshop.
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      • Re: What's the app
        by Rayiner Hashem on Saturday 29/Nov/2003, @10:08
        There are a number of custom tools that the development houses have ported over. A lot of these tools ran on IRIX or Solaris already, so the ports were pretty simple. Beyond that, there are a number of other standard pro tools the studios use, namely XSI (used by ILM), Shake, etc.
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      • Re: What's the app
        by LaNcom on Tuesday 02/Dec/2003, @10:02
        They could have used Amazon for Linux instead of Photoshop (likely, at least for textures and backgrounds). It's way beyond Photoshop (or the Gimp), but hold your breath, it's _very_ expensive.
        http://www.ifx.com
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      • Re: What's the app
        by grovel on Friday 05/Dec/2003, @10:20
        I disagree, they probably have only one app for one PC with Linux. These are very specialized guys, there's no way, the animator or the modeller is going to do the textures himself. Probably they use Photoshop on MacOS for it...
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  • Re: What's the app
    by anders on Saturday 29/Nov/2003, @04:50
    I think it is Mirai.
    Check out one of the main modellers discussion site for more info:
    http://cube.phlatt.net/forums/spiraloid/index.php
    There is a special thread about Gollum:
    http://cube.phlatt.net/forums/spiraloid/viewtopic.php?TopicID=493
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One thing is for sure...
by Joergen Ramskov on Saturday 29/Nov/2003, @06:10
The Two Towers Extended Edition rocks! :)

Highly recommended!
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Fairly obvious from shots that FreeBSD is the OS
by More-OSX_KDE_Interpollination on Saturday 29/Nov/2003, @10:41
and not Linux ...
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  • Re: Fairly obvious from shots that FreeBSD is the OS
    by a.c. on Saturday 29/Nov/2003, @11:47
    Cool. What do you base that on?
    What have I missed?
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    • Re: Fairly obvious from shots that FreeBSD is the
      by brockers on Sunday 30/Nov/2003, @20:48
      Hmmm... you have "obviously" not kept up with Weta's Linux commitment and usage. There is no way to tell from the pics which *nix is being used but any slightly informed individual would safely bet that they are using Linux. Weta's commitment to Linux and Linux development is almost famous in the motion picture industry.

      brockers
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      • Re: Fairly obvious from shots that FreeBSD is the
        by LaNcom on Tuesday 02/Dec/2003, @10:05
        Oh yes, there _is_ a way. Weta uses Linux - check Weta's press releases.
        BTW, Maya (the 3D app on one of the screenshots) won't run under *BSD...
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Kind of ironic...
by Scott Wheeler on Saturday 29/Nov/2003, @14:00
That the movies are being produced on Linux, but it's not legal in the US to watch them on Linux. ;-)
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  • Re: Kind of ironic...
    by Kavau on Saturday 29/Nov/2003, @14:29
    I guess that explains why there are so many crappy movies out there. If the producers can't legally watch their product...
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I missed it!
by Leonscape on Saturday 29/Nov/2003, @18:43
I can't believe I watched all the appendices and missed KDE in it. Got to get my eyes checked!
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  • Re: I missed it!
    by Tackat on Sunday 30/Nov/2003, @03:55
    If you are so used to your own favourite desktop environment this is quite likely to happen ;-) I already found myself seeing KDE on TV without really realizing it at once ("Hm, looks like my own desktop") - it was just after a while that I got aware of it ("Hey, they used KDE!")
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Maya
by frappa on Sunday 30/Nov/2003, @13:10
What toolkit is Maya built with?
It looks pretty nice.
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  • Re: Maya
    by Ben Staffin on Sunday 30/Nov/2003, @17:54
    Ha ha ha. I am not certain if it is Motif or a custom toolkit - probably custom, actually. Maya's interface is a *mess*. It has an extremely high learning curve, but much like blender (which has a FAR worse interface), once you get familiar with it you can work quite quickly.
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    • Re: Maya
      by Danni Coy on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @00:55
      I can't think of a Pro Graphics App that does not have a big learning Curve. I found Maya at least a lot easier to learn than 3D Studio Max.
      I think that Mayas interface is one of the most Innovative I have seen in a long time, It is just that the program is so huge it can be hard to know where to begin.
      Anyhoo I am uncertain of toolkit but those toolbars look awefully Motify don't they.
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    • Re: Maya
      by Mike on Friday 19/Dec/2003, @19:16
      It's Motif. The Linux version comes with openmotif which must be installed prior to Maya.
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  • Re: Maya
    by Linz on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @15:29
    "Maya uses OpenMotif 2.1 as its GUI framework. The version used is OpenMotif 2.1.30 from ICS."

    http://www.alias.com/eng/support/maya/qualified_hardware/QUAL/maya_50_linux.html
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Fuzzy Time
by Troy Unrau on Sunday 30/Nov/2003, @20:19
In the last screenie, they are using fuzzy time :)

I think it's cute. Actually, I think it's awsome that there is at least one person in the world that has used/is using fuzzy time. Makes me feel like feature creap isn't all for nothing :P

Troy Unrau (http://tblog.ath.cx)
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  • Re: Fuzzy Time
    by TomL on Monday 01/Dec/2003, @07:59
    Hey, I use fuzzy time all the *t*i*m*e*!!

    I love it.
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  • Re: Fuzzy Time
    by Ben Roe on Tuesday 02/Dec/2003, @08:18
    I'd forgotten all about fuzzy time - I'm going to start using it again now. Maybe it's a bit strange, given I set my computer's time by NTP, but it's a nice human way of telling the time :)
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  • Re: Fuzzy Time
    by Divide on Saturday 06/Dec/2003, @08:40
    Hey, fuzzy time is awesome!

    There's no other clock for me.
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Television
by newt on Tuesday 02/Dec/2003, @05:47
KDE has been displayed and used on the television show Alias before. Look for it on the CIA desktop displays. :)
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I like the story's title so I ...
by Allen on Friday 05/Dec/2003, @10:38
I nominate this story's title as "Best Story Title" for 2003.
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Unhidden Kicker panel
by David on Saturday 06/Dec/2003, @07:13
This is certainly an excellent example of Linux and KDE being used "in real life", but the one thing which struck me about the screen captures (and the one thing which made it possible to easily tell that KDE was being used at all) was that the users of those machines run KDE with the Kicker panel unhidden!

It's funny but the first thing I do on any machine I have access to is to set the panel to autohide when not in use, in order to maximise my vertical [1] screen real estate! I'd have thought that other power users, such as these, who spend most of the day in the one app, would do the same.

[1] I know you can align the panel to the side of the screen to maximise vertical space that way, but unfortunately, given the necessary width of many of the panel contents, it doesn't really work so well that way (although you do tend to have more horizontal space to play with/sacrifice, than you do vertically). Another muse here: I wonder if anybody has done any research as to whether it's easier to fling the mouse left/right to reach a panel, than up/down? It would seem to me that it's a slightly easier wrist movement to 'rotate' left/right than stretch/retract up/down..?
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  • Re: Unhidden Kicker panel
    by Volker on Wednesday 31/Dec/2003, @08:48
    They obviously unhid the panel so everyone would see what environment they use, sort of to give credits and to enhance popularity. That should be done more often by all of us.
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