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Re: Quanta and W3C
by Richard Moore on Monday 01/Dec/2003, @04:21
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Personally I've found using CSS for positioning to be a pain in the neck (specifically relative positioning). I gave up on it in the end as one those 'nice-in-theory' things that's just not worth hassle in practice.
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Re: Quanta and W3C
by Eric Laffoon on Monday 01/Dec/2003, @04:42
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LOL
Thanks Rich. Now I feel better. I support the W3C and their efforts, but I can write W3C complaint HTML that won't render on any browser or is managed very differently from one to another. While people suggest non tabled layouts they never seem to send a patch. A look around the web shows almost nobody moving away from tables yet.
Its very easy to repeat an idea but much harder to put ideas in action and do something.
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Re: Quanta and W3C
by Shift on Monday 01/Dec/2003, @09:31
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It is possible and it is more clear than tables :
http://shift.free.fr/
http://shift.freezope.org/
I will never suggest to use CSS+XHTML if I haven't done it yet on my website ;)
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Re: Quanta and W3C
by Jilks on Monday 01/Dec/2003, @21:11
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Whoa! Konq Rellinks is great! This should be in Konqueror! (Or is it and I'm blind?) This would be a great usability enhancement!
BTW, nice sites. ;-)
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Re: Quanta and W3C
by Shift on Tuesday 02/Dec/2003, @02:12
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It is not in Konqueror (yet?) because I haven't got much time to work on it and I have lot's of small bugs because it is my first C++ experience.
If somebody want to help me it will be great !!
Just mail me :)
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Request for Konqueror developers
by No Flash Please on Thursday 04/Dec/2003, @07:10
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If you are a Konqueror developer, I have a request.
I tried submitting this to the bug list (Mozilla now that I think about it, maybe not Konqueror), but I'm too dumb to figure out the complicated bug submission site (must be Mozilla).
Can someone PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE set up the pop up screen that asks if you want to download/install flash so there is a 3rd choice, No, AND DON'T ASK AGAIN, instead of just Download/Cancel or Yes/Cancel or whatever it is now?
If I were a programmer, this would be my first patch. But I'm not...so I'm asking here. Maybe you can submit it as a bug/feature request for me if you aren't interested in doing it yourself.
Thank you VERY much in advance for the consideration.
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Re: Quanta and W3C
by AC on Monday 01/Dec/2003, @05:49
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That's prolly because you tried writing it by hand. Complex layouts without a WYSIWYG tool are certainly not a good idea.
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Re: Quanta and W3C
by Richard Moore on Monday 01/Dec/2003, @05:59
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That may be true, but I don't know any tools that allow you to use relative positioning effectively (including dreamweaver), and if you use absolute positioning your page looks shit as soon as someone resizes it or changes the font size. So, if we can't do it by hand and there are no tools we're back at the conclusion that CSS relative positioning is not worth the trouble.
Rich.
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Re: Quanta and W3C
by Jilks on Monday 01/Dec/2003, @07:47
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Oh! absolute positioning is really easy and effective! The trick is to ensure your divs (or whatever) are the correct size and to use percentages to position them. Any sized browser window and any resolution will all look very much the same. That allows you do put the main content at the top of the source and everything else at the bottom, which has the effect of making it -seem- like the page loads faster.
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