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Re: ERP?
by Henrique Pinto on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @15:23
Brazilian Portuguese is spoken by at least 170 millions of South Americans (the brazilians, of course), and most of them do not speak spanish (me included). I believe that is a considerable part of the southern part of the continent.
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Re: ERP?
by Scott Wheeler on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @16:00
Ah, yeah, actually I just looked at a map -- I hadn't realized how far south Brazil's east coast goes. That's what I was trying to get at with "the southern half of the continent".
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  • Re: ERP?
    by Henrique Pinto on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @16:17
    As stated in another post, the three Americas are just one continent. Therefore, I thought you meant South America when you said "the southern half of the continent".

    I was not offended by your post. It is common to hear misinformation about Brazil. As I believed that was happening here, I tried to give accurate information. Just yesterday I had to told an United States Citizen (all people born in the three Americas are Americans, so I have to specify here) that people don't live up in trees here, nor do they eat other humans. Last week I talked in a chat with a british that got amazed that there are computers in Brazil.

    And most US Citizens believe that the Amazon Rainforest is not part of Brazil, instead being an "International Area", what is caused by their educational system that seems to incentivate this misinformation.
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    • Re: ERP?
      by Scott Wheeler on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @17:39
      > Just yesterday I had to told an United States Citizen (all people born in the
      > three Americas are Americans, so I have to specify here) [...]

      That's true in Spanish and presumably Portugese, but not in English (except in certain specific contexts). When I speak Spanish I refer to myself as a "un estadounidense" but the correct translation of that term into English is "American".
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      • Re: ERP?
        by A.C. on Thursday 04/Dec/2003, @03:36
        Is it like that in British English too?

        And which term do you use to refer to anybody from the New World?
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        • Re: ERP?
          by Dominic Chambers on Thursday 04/Dec/2003, @10:54
          South American.

          For whatever reasons -- probably language and money -- people from the US are called Americans, and people from the rest of the America's are called South Americans, except the Canadians who are called ... well, Canadians.

          I am English but live in Spain now, and was always getting caught out by that one -- calling the US, America.
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          • Re: ERP?
            by Henrique Pinto on Thursday 04/Dec/2003, @10:59
            Are Mexicans also "south americans"? And people from Cuba, Nicaragua, Panama, etc.?
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            • Re: ERP?
              by Scott Wheeler on Thursday 04/Dec/2003, @11:53
              "Latin Americans" would encompass Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean islands and is the preferred term; as was pointed out "South Americans" isn't particularly precise -- though on the other hand "North Americans" often refers to Americans and Canadians (and as I recall it's the same in Spanish there).

              However the last two terms are a matter of some ambiguity, the former is not in English. If you don't believe me, try referring to a Canadian as an American and see how far you get. :-)
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              • Re: ERP?
                by Carlos Cesar on Tuesday 09/Dec/2003, @11:58
                Joining the nitpicking festival.


                <i>Latin Americans" would encompass Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean islands</i>


                Then you would describe a Jamaican as Latin?

                It's getting better and better.



                Cheers,

                carlos Cesar
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                • West Indian
                  by AC on Sunday 14/Dec/2003, @20:29
                  Immigrants from Jamaica (and Barbados and Trinidad...) are called West Indians in the UK -- most British English speakers wouldn't think of them as any sort of American. But of course in Indian English West Indian might refer to someone from Gujarat or Punjab. Cubans are Latin but are they Latin *American*?

                  Picking nits like this is contagious.
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                  • Re: West Indian
                    by Carlos Cesar on Monday 15/Dec/2003, @04:53
                    <I>Cubans are Latin but are they Latin *American*?</I>

                    That's a toughie! Kudos.


                    Cheers,
                    Carlos Cesar
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            • Re: ERP?
              by NAT on Friday 02/Sep/2005, @20:09
              NO HENRIQUE PINTO, MEXICANS ARE NOT SOUTH AMERICANS- NOT EVEN CLOSE. SOUTH AMERICANS ARE THE CHILEANS, ARGENTINIANS, AND BRAZILIANS... NOT MEXICO
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