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  KDE Image Database 1.0 Released
Applications Posted by Jesper Pedersen on Tuesday 02/Dec/2003, @18:42
from the we-thought-it-would-never-happen dept.
After exactly one year of coding, several months of bothering people with demos, and 2 long holidays (also used for coding), I've finally gotten my act together enough to make a public release of KimDaBa. If you have a large pile of digital images and need a sane solution for managing them, KimDaBa could well be the answer to your prayers.

When I got my first digital camera a year ago, several image managers already existed, so I had a hard time choosing the right one. It was especially hard because I had serious doubts that any of the existing applications would scale up very well, up to say, tens of thousands of images with hundreds of new images coming in each month.

Taking my ignorance to the limit, I decided to develop the desired application myself. Suffice it to say, if you have a large pile of digital images, and cannot answer yes to all of these points, then be sure to take a look at KimDaBa:

  • It's easy to index your images -- "Label these 10 images as pictures of my girlfriend."
  • Within a few seconds you can find a given image you have in mind -- "Locate that image of my girlfriend from the holiday on Mallorca in 1998", or "Get me that photo with both my girlfriend and my father."
  • You have all the tools needed to set up a slide show of a given subset of your images.
  • When browsing through your images, it's easy to switch category -- One moment you are looking at images of your girlfriend, the next you are looking at images from your trip to Mallorca.
  • It's easy to make your images available on the net in different resolutions -- Make it easy for your mother on a 32Kb modem to see them in the right resolution, and for your brother on a 2Mb line to get images in a resolution high enough for printing.



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Modifying meta info on multiple files in konqueror
by JohnFlux on Tuesday 02/Dec/2003, @18:57
I tend to dislike using dot.kde.org as a bug.kde.org but this seems just so relevant...

In konqueror, you can right click on an image, and add meta info for description. This is really cool to use to store info about the picture.
However I can't select multiple pictures, and edit the meta info for all of them at once - I can't think of a nice way to do this.
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EXIF?
by Photographer on Tuesday 02/Dec/2003, @19:12
It does not support EXIF information and so it is useless for me. :(

As a hobbyist photographer, *what I need to switch my photo db on Linux* is something like this:

>>>
"( http://www.iview-multimedia.com/products/mediapro/index.html ) iView MediaPro</A> is essential for creative and media professionals who need to organize, view, annotate, print, backup and repurpose media, as well as automate workflows.
With iView MediaPro, you can make the most of your media to create flexible slide show presentations, QuickTime movies, theme-based web pages, print multi-image reports, and custom PDF layouts. You can also enhance the color, brightness and other visual characteristics of photographs.

Version 2.0 comes with its new cross-platform Catalog Reader for free distribution. Share iView catalogs and slide shows with clients, colleagues, friends and families who do not own an iView program.

Organizing your media into catalogs allows you to instantly search, annotate and classify media with unlimited criteria across large volumes of mounted or unmounted media files using the drag-and-drop organizer. MediaPro supports IPTC, EXIF and QuickTime annotation standards, user defined annotations and128 file formats, including popular image, audio/video, and digital camera raw formats. It also converts media into a variety of formats and supports AppleScript.

Creates media catalogs containing thumbnails and annotations that can be viewed even when the original files are no longer on a mounted drive. iView MediaPro allows you to import photos direct from a digital camera and burn media onto a CD-ROM or backup media to a removable volume."
<<<

And of course, I need 16bit per channel support on Gimp. And then I can switch on Unix/Linux with all my gear. But such support ain't there yet for pros or for serious hobbyists.
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Coolness
by Ian Reinhart Geiser on Tuesday 02/Dec/2003, @19:34
I've always wondered what this bugger did. Hope to see more apps here :)

Cheers
-ian reinhart geiser
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Fixed Properties
by Anonymous on Tuesday 02/Dec/2003, @20:00
> KimDaba offers to describe images with a number of properties. These includes date, persons on image, location of image, plus a keyword field

This sounds only useful for people taking photographs of persons at locations with no need for more than one own property. Why not make this full configurable or possible to add/search for unlimited property|content pairs?
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This sounds great
by Mario on Tuesday 02/Dec/2003, @20:05
After Mosfet's PixiePlus ended up dying with him, I thought I would never have a good image manager again, this sounds like it will fill its role for me =)
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KimDaBa
by cypherz on Tuesday 02/Dec/2003, @21:48
>>It's easy to index your images -- "Label these 10 images..." etc

This is exactly what I've been looking for! Kewl!
thanks x 10e6!
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F-Spot comparison?
by Photographer on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @00:02
How is this app compares to GTK#'s upcoming F-SPOT, feature-wise?
More info here: http://perazzoli.org/blog.php
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Its been dotkded
by Ian Monroe on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @00:19
Downloading at about 2 kilobyte/sec, just like in the bad old days. I'm off to bed now, I'll mirror it on my university space when I get up.

From the screen shots, it looks interesting. Currently I have all my photos in chronological order in folders based on when I downloaded them. I imagine thats just going to get more unwieldy the longer I own the digital camera though.
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Looks very cool !
by quarus on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @01:16
Can't wait to try it !
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GREAT!
by Dani on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @01:46
Just about 4 weeks ago I discussed with a friend about such an app and our needs.
I'll give it a try asap, because there are about 14'000 Digitalfotos on my disk, and I can order it how I want - it's a chaos...
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Seems very good so...
by LC on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @01:46
What about adding this app to the future KDE 3.3 ?
There is no app like this in the official release and it would be a good improvement.
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imgSeek
by Tobias on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @02:11
If you add some imgSeek.sf.net search features, I will be happy. ;-)
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Brings order into chaos
by Robert on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @05:20
Wow! This thingy is cool!

I'm currently hooked on Windoze but am planning to convert to Linux on XMas. One of the several pieces of data that i will have to "convert" is a moderately large collection of digicam images, which i previously looked at with a horribly stupid digicam browsing tool plus a simple folder structure. KimDaBa gives me categories and free associations to introduce some order into the chaos ;-))

I will *definitely* use it around christmas, expect feedback from me then
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Gallery Remote Protocol support??
by Sander on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @05:37
Will KimDaBa support the remote protocol of Gallery in a next version? ( http://tinyurl.com/xjli )
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KDE already has Kmrml
by John the anonymous on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @07:23
There is an application included in KDE since a long time (however I never had luck to get it work) called Kmrml. Is a client for GIFT, a image indexing server with manages to clasificate images similar to an example proposed by the user; it uses an xml based protocol so it can be used in a distributed way over internet. I think it would be interesting to make both applications work together (a possible backend for KimDaBa??). However I have no the time to work on this :-(
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digikam and KimDaBa
by Thorsten Schnebeck on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @09:16
I have tested both programs and digikam 0.6.0pre is sooo sweet especially with its plugin mechanism. But KimDaBa has the far better features to organize my pictures.

<dream>
KimDaBa as a digikam-plugin!
</dream>

Working with a good digicam (EOS300d) and Linux is quite ok. When somebody wants to work on a kde imaging program _please_ use 16bit RGB and colormanagement. You need this today! Scanner and RAW formats use more than 8 bit per channel. There is only CinePaint today for Linux so there is a deep need for a good (=KDE) image manipulation program.

And don't underestimate the size of a picture.
Kuickshow can't show
http://www.tawbaware.com/maxlyons/gigapixel_strip.jpg
(40786x100 pixel)
(gimp works)

Oh, and a kde-tool (like PTassembler or better than Hugin) for the panotools would also a nice addon ;-)

Bye

Thorsten
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Looks fascinating!
by Adam Foster on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @12:08
Downloading it right now. I've got (quick check) 1987 photos from my camera in a single directory, and Konqueror's thumbnails were getting a bit unwieldy. This looks like a perfect tool for sorting stuff properly, without lots of complicated directories clouding the issue.

Looks like it's time to get compiling...
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Anyone else seeing compilation errors?
by cm on Wednesday 03/Dec/2003, @22:04
Does anyone else see linker errors for the CVS version
in kdeextragear-2? kimdaba hasn't been building here
for quite some time, but I didn't bother because I thought
"It's still in development and will eventually be fixed...".

Now that it's released but with the error still there
I think I might have some problems that are specific
to my installation.

There are several errors like this.
imageconfigui.moc.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTV13ImageConfigUI+0x20):
undefined reference to `ImageConfigUI::~ImageConfigUI [in-charge]()'

So, does the CVS version build for all of you who have tried?
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Lossless jpeg rotation?
by Anony Guy on Thursday 04/Dec/2003, @14:54
Looks pretty cool. One feature that I must have in such a program is the ability to quickly select and (losslessly) rotate pictures. Reading through the documentation I saw a picture that suggests you can rotate for viewing, but it wasn't clear if this rotated the actual picture.

Looks like a cool App! I'll download and play with it tonight.

John
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