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Re: how about native Cocoa KDE port?
by Anton Velev on Friday 02/Jan/2004, @13:22

Okay, i know the arguments for a multiplatform OO API, many do already support multiple platforms:
- MPL Mozilla (cannot guess what was the toolkit behind it but for sure it's their own)
- LGPL OpenOffice.org VCL? (or something like it, for sure you know what i mean I don't have the free time now to search on the web what exactly was its name)
- wxWindows - you tell me what is the license
- BSD VCF (http://vcf.sourceforge.net/)
- GPL QT
- LGPL GTK
Seems that a lot of them are very capable and some of them very well developed and OO though. But the market seems to adopt GTK like it or not. (I am personally for BSD) (for interested people read this: http://www.cons.org/cracauer/gpl.html ))

The other issue of course is not just the quality of the code (VCF seems to be very good btw) but also the need of relyability on 3rd party software (Microsoft and Qt are good example) while one prefers to rely on something real free or entirely internal codebase.

Of course there could be may be a lot more reasons, but of couse you guys should not care about them, since you care about KDE (not the GTK vs QT vs VCF vs wxWindows vs other guys affairs). What is for sure is that KDE loses from this affairs, and that Sun, HP, and some other (like Novell, UserLinux etc) adopt non-GPL solutions. ....

anyway, KDE free of GPL will be better in my oppinion for the adoption

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Re: how about native Cocoa KDE port?
by Kurt Pfeifle on Friday 02/Jan/2004, @13:57

>> What is for sure is that KDE loses from this affairs...

We'll see.

And work against this in the meanwhile. Stay tuned.

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Re: how about native Cocoa KDE port?
by Datschge on Friday 02/Jan/2004, @15:41

Me being an interested person read your linked article, and in my opinion both the author as well as you don't have the "Required knowledge" stated at the top of the very page: "You must understand why authors of free software differ in their opinions what to allow others to do with the software they released to the public."

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Re: how about native Cocoa KDE port?
by OK on Saturday 03/Jan/2004, @11:59

> What is for sure is that KDE loses from this affairs, and that Sun, HP, and some other (like Novell, UserLinux etc) adopt non-GPL solutions. ....

Really? Now, how do you reason? So you mean that if a "big company" uses a toolkit, that means success? That is not how I define success.

If these "big companies" use free toolkits at their will, to develop kick ass commercial apps, without contributing much back, then what will happen? This will surely be the knife on the throat for open source apps.

> anyway, KDE free of GPL will be better in my oppinion for the adoption
Is this really the "adoption" you wants? Think again please. Open source development is at risc here.

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