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Re: Thanks
by cachehit on Saturday 07/Aug/2004, @22:31
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What are you talking about?
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Re: Thanks
by jmk on Sunday 08/Aug/2004, @02:02
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Sounds worrying. What's up?
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Re: Thanks
by Anonymous on Sunday 08/Aug/2004, @03:45
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Nothing to see. Only a troll. Please don't stop, go on.
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Re: Thanks
by Abhi on Sunday 08/Aug/2004, @02:38
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http://news.com.com/Novell+to+release+enhanced+Linux+in+fall/2100-7344_3-5300555.html?tag=nefd.top
I'm from India. I have seen Novell's Bangalore development center advertise for GTK developers. Think about it, KDE seems to be losing corporote support. Redhat, Sun, Novell and UserLinux. With Suse gone, I fear the clouds are looming in the horizon. boo hoo :-(
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Re: Thanks
by Anonymous on Sunday 08/Aug/2004, @03:23
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SUSE/Novell is not gone. And what lost development support from the others for KDE are you talking about?
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Re: Thanks
by huu on Sunday 08/Aug/2004, @03:33
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Problem is briefly this: corporations will only use what ever comes by default and is most supported. If i read this article correctly, KDE is losing this support - ximian guys have brainwashed management well enough. But on the other hand; how could they be this stupid, if KDE has most users?
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Re: Thanks
by Rob Kaper on Tuesday 10/Aug/2004, @00:43
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Who gives a damn. Seriously.
If corporate support would be the key factor towards a useful product, I'd be running Microsoft Windows. But it isn't: KDE was useful long before corporations got interested, and will be useful for a long time after they've moved to GNOME or something else. It was never money that made KDE great, and in fact, some of the biggest screw-ups in our releases of the past were directly influenced by corporate interests.
In a world of increasing interoperability, market share is really not that important.
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Re: Thanks
by Anonymous on Sunday 08/Aug/2004, @04:42
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SUSE is NOT gone. The current SUSE Linux 9.2 will still default to KDE. And the same is true for all future versions of SUSE Linux:
http://linuxtoday.com/mailprint.php3?action=pv<sn=2004-03-31-...
However, SUSE supports both the KDE and GNOME environments in its professional and enterprise products only, Schlaeger pointed out. "We will never support anything but KDE in Personal Edition," he predicted.
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Re: Thanks
by Abhi on Sunday 08/Aug/2004, @02:40
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from http://news.com.com/Novell+to+release+enhanced+Linux+in+fall/2100-7344_3-5300555.html?tag=nefd.top
"Novell's desktop software employs the GNOME user interface and software, but it will also include that of rival KDE, McLellan said. However, Novell's integration work is happening only with the GNOME applications, she said.
For example, a calendar item entered in Evolution will appear in the GNOME calendar, and an instant-messenger nickname entered in Evolution will appear in the GAIM instant-messenger client. GNOME components Evolution and GAIM will dovetail with GroupWise server software, while the KDE equivalents--KMail and Kopete--will not. "
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Re: Thanks
by huu on Sunday 08/Aug/2004, @03:05
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This is really terrible. I've tried to use almost every version of Evolution up to date on Fedora and SUSE with no luck - it just refuses to do anything with our imap server ( MS Exchange 5.5 ). Before anyone asks - yes, it doesn't even show my email, let alone calendars etc. Kontact works fine. And this buggy piece of s.. software you're now starting to offer to us. Great.
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Re: Thanks
by Anonymous on Sunday 08/Aug/2004, @04:32
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McLellan is a former Ximian employee. It's no wonder that she touts the stuff that way. Actually this article is a much more accurate read:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1631172,00.asp
'At the time, Novell thought it would have such a desktop ready by year's end. Now, Stone won't publicly give a date. "The project isn't even in alpha."'
And currently those not-even-alpha-versions offer the user the choice between KDE and Gnome (with no default picked).
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Re: Thanks
by huu on Sunday 08/Aug/2004, @04:45
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> And currently those not-even-alpha-versions offer the user the choice between KDE and Gnome (with no default picked).
So,
a) Did the Ximian guy lie in public (wouldn't be a first time)? If this is the case, please use some proper PR folks to do these 'announcements', not coders. This is getting ridiculous.
b) Or is really all integration work done for Gnome only? If it is, i think the default is quite clear no matter what the installer option does at this stage.
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Re: Thanks
by Anonymous on Sunday 08/Aug/2004, @05:01
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> b) Or is really all integration work done for Gnome only?
No, isn't the SUSE employee working on further integrating OpenOffice.org with KDE proof enough?
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Re: Thanks
by superstoned on Sunday 08/Aug/2004, @05:39
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you know what the most funny thing is... kopete/kontact/kadressbook can already do this...
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