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SUSE/Novell - Gnome or KDE
by AC on Wednesday 11/Aug/2004, @14:52
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| The comment on http://dot.kde.org/1091963184/1091974660/ gave me the impression that we would get some more insight information from a SUSE/Novell-employee regarding the direction SUSE/Novell is taking. Don't get me wrong I think Kiosk is very great software but I think for the moment people are more interested in what is happening behind the scene at Novell. I wish more questions in the interview were about the new SUSE (Novell). |
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Re: SUSE/Novell - Gnome or KDE
by David on Wednesday 11/Aug/2004, @15:37
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Kiosk is absolutely essential for enterprise rollouts and integration into good Novell technology like Zenworks etc. Other desktops do not have such a technology, nor is it embedded throughout the desktop.
The answer is that nothing much is happening, and the usual silly announcement from the Ximian people gave the impression that a desktop would be released this autumn and it would support only Gnome blah, blah, blah. It was basically a bit of internal selling (Gnome stuff does this but KDE doesn't) done publicly. Their PR doesn't really do them any favours.
Basically, they have a Suse Linux Desktop and it can run both Gnome and KDE right now, although there are the usual refinements such as YaST etc. People can choose. Integration of Open Office etc. is going on on both platforms. Over time it looks as if Novell/Suse will gravitate to one in terms of the underlying technology etc it will use. They have already done so in Suse 9.0, 9.1 and 9.2 as well. Suse's use of KDE has a bit of an advantage here as it is part of an existing product line and is being iteratively developed and sold as a commercial product - which means it is generating interest, PR and revenue now. None of the Ximian oriented stuff is. Suse have publicly stated that they would only ever support KDE in the Personal Edition. Those are the only facts we can go on, not the usual "we are doing this" and hearsay stuff.
However, Novell are getting this process right. If they have to pick one (they may pick a base, but I can't see stuff like Mono not being used in some capacity) then they will look at the technology, the companies they can partner with, the existing popularity and feedback from users. Basically, everything that matters to Novell's customers and Enterprises that wasn't done with UserLinux.
One of the things that will go the journey (and will have to) is the notion that you can bring free software development in-house and lavish resources on hacking on it. If you want to do that you need companies to partner with who respect free software (Trolltech, MySQL etc), and if you want general free software you need a community to share the load. That's the way the open source community works, and Novell can't do it by themselves. The free desktop direction Novell is taking has to pay for itself.
I don't think we'll see any change of direction at all until well into 2005.
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Re: SUSE/Novell - Gnome or KDE
by gerd on Wednesday 11/Aug/2004, @19:56
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I really wonder why Suse is unable to stop Ximians FUD. A first step could be to bring Ximian under control of Suse.
Anti-KDE bashing harms customers relations of SuSe. And in fact I wonder why they tend to speak in the name of SuSe while SuSe/Novell officals tell you a different story.
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Re: SUSE/Novell - Gnome or KDE
by anonymous on Thursday 12/Aug/2004, @00:48
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> Anti-KDE bashing harms customers relations of SuSe
I agree. And I say it as a SUSE customer (personal and corporate). Employee re-training ahead? Hmm, no thanks. Unless you can show some real vital benefits from doing so. So far, this has worked quite well enough.
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Re: SUSE/Novell - Gnome or KDE
by Anonymous on Thursday 12/Aug/2004, @04:17
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Which SuSe/Novell officals and which story?
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Re: SUSE/Novell - Gnome or KDE
by aKademy Team on Wednesday 11/Aug/2004, @15:54
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There were a few questions put to him explicitly asking for comments, but though perhaps illuminating they were uninteresting and off-topic. Basically, he just pointed out (as in this interview) that SuSE are actively developing KDE stuff, and that Novell Linux Desktop will ship both with KDE and GNOME.
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Re: SUSE/Novell - Gnome or KDE
by charles on Wednesday 11/Aug/2004, @16:33
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Another question:
Will it be the Novell Linux Desktop for KDE and the or SuSE Linux Desktop for GNOME, or is the SuSE Linux Desktop being renamed to Novell Linux Desktop?
Cb..
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Re: SUSE/Novell - Gnome or KDE
by grintz on Wednesday 11/Aug/2004, @20:01
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In the core market Suse is a better trademark than Novell.
Naming does not matter. Suse also ships Gnome, so nothing new.
The customer decides at SuSe, not Ximian developers.
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Re: SUSE/Novell - Gnome or KDE
by nld-man on Monday 16/Aug/2004, @02:09
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> Will it be the Novell Linux Desktop for KDE and the
The Novell Linux Desktop will ship KDE as well as Gnome. Both environments will equally be treated in terms of integration and default selection. The Novell Linux Desktop is mostly targeted at enterprise customers (Like the SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop was).
SUSE Linux Personal as well as as SUSE Linux Professional will continue to exist (9.2 is already in the works) and will target mostly home users and professionals.
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Re: SUSE/Novell - Gnome or KDE
by Anonymous on Thursday 12/Aug/2004, @07:30
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"the Kiosk Admin Tool, has been specifically written for Novell's upcoming Novell Linux Desktop."
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