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Re: switch to DVD
by Tobias on Tuesday 24/Aug/2004, @00:29
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Yeah,
but the DVD-Editions of Knoppix are not available on the net, but can only be ordered via mail.
That is the thing that should change - most people by now own a DVD-recorder (which until now was the argument for knoppix not to switch), recorders are at 50-80 euro, so affordable for almost everybody.
btw: Linux Tag Edition DVD is great, have installed it on several systems without any major problems |
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Re: switch to DVD
by superstoned on Tuesday 24/Aug/2004, @01:03
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I dont have a dvd burner, can't afford one, and if I could, the DVD is much larger - so it whould take much longer to download, increase the load on the servers etc.
I think this is the best way: download the free cd version, buy the (cheap) dvd and support knoppix. if you can spend 50-80 euro on a DVD burner (I dont even have a DVD reader) you can spend E 5-10 on a DVD sent to your home.
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Re: switch to DVD
by John Savings Freak on Tuesday 24/Aug/2004, @02:58
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Where do you live? Most people I know do not have DVD burners. In fact I know very few people who do. That said it would be nice if both were made available for download.
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Re: switch to DVD
by anno on Tuesday 24/Aug/2004, @05:45
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Why don't you build your own DVD and make it public via Bittorrent?
If EVERYBODY wants a DVD instead of CD, than it will be a piece of cake to make it worldwide available.
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Re: switch to DVD
by MandrakeUser on Tuesday 24/Aug/2004, @06:24
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Reality check: I don't own a dvd recorder, and I know _nobody_ who owns one. DVD recorders will be standard in a couple years. And this is assuming the industry stops fscking around with incompatible formats:
http://www.dvd-recorders-guide.com/dvd-recorder-formats.html
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Re: switch to DVD
by Leny on Tuesday 24/Aug/2004, @07:20
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Here almost everybody who likes computers has a DVD burner. It just doesn't make sense to buy a computer with a CD-ROM burner now, and to buy a brand new burner, as stated in the thread, is just 50-80. Come on, even 4 extra-pizzas and a six pack can be more expensive ;)
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Re: switch to DVD
by Roey Katz on Tuesday 24/Aug/2004, @11:42
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You make it sound inexpensive like that, but it's all a matter of perception.
You can also say "Come on, even a dinner at Bobby Flay's Mesa Grill in New York can be more expensive!" (and Mesa Grill is rather expensive).
How much of the money I spend on a DVD burner goes to the MPAA?
Roey
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Re: switch to DVD
by George Moody on Wednesday 25/Aug/2004, @15:11
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What about those of us who do not want to buy (or cannot afford to buy) a new computer? My 2 year old laptop doesn't even have a CD burner but it is still very usable for Linux/KDE. There is no need for me to buy a new PC, and YES I do like computers but no I don't want to waste money buying things I don't need. Or cannot use as the laptop isn't upgradeable.
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Re: switch to DVD
by chris on Tuesday 24/Aug/2004, @09:18
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look at the prices of dvd recorders , and you see imidiatly that *everyone* has one.
the only people that have none are you and your friends.
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Re: switch to DVD
by veton on Tuesday 24/Aug/2004, @10:27
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This is not true. I bought my computer last year (medion). It has nearly everything you could expect from a computer at that time (cd RW, DVD reader, smart card readers,..) but it does'nt have a DVD writer...
Not everyone does upgrade or buy a new computer each year.
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Re: switch to DVD
by Alex on Tuesday 24/Aug/2004, @11:16
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At least here in California almost everyoen I know has a DVD burner.
My family has oen for each computer, even the laptop. Though we only have one dual layer DVD burner.
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Re: switch to DVD
by chris on Tuesday 24/Aug/2004, @12:54
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you are the minority - face it - and dont complain.
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Re: switch to DVD
by MandrakeUser on Tuesday 24/Aug/2004, @12:58
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Maybe I am missing something ?
Maybe Free Software is about helping each other instead of being anal ?
In the end, this is nosense. The best way to do this is to open up a poll in the project page for knoppix. And ask Knoppix users if they want the switch.
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Re: switch to DVD
by chris on Tuesday 24/Aug/2004, @13:01
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yes but there always people saying of i have no Feature A (dvdplayer) so why should the world need this. This really sux - those people have a problem , they have nothing to say but want to express for the whole world.
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Re: switch to DVD
by Andre Somers on Wednesday 25/Aug/2004, @00:01
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Does the fact that Knoppix is distributed in a CD format prevent you from using it then? I thought DVD burners can burn CD's too? If that's the case, the situation is exactly the opposite from what you claim: "I have feature A, what do I care if the rest of the world does not and would not be able to use the software?"
André
not owning a DVD burner either.
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Re: switch to DVD
by ac on Wednesday 25/Aug/2004, @02:52
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> Does the fact that Knoppix is distributed in a CD format prevent you
> from using it then?
In a way it does. A CD is too small for a modern distro, so
it must be crippled to fit on that medium.
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Re: switch to DVD
by Annoyed Parent on Wednesday 25/Aug/2004, @15:19
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Chris,
You obviously live in a world where your parents have spoilt you by buying all the new toys and by them not pointing out that you are a priviledged little pillock (an English word for idiot who knows no better). Not everybody has a DVD recorder for TV or a DVD burner in their PC, in fact most of the world's population do not have a PC.
Go get a life and an understanding of the real world, not that one you inhabit in your bedroom.
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Re: switch to DVD
by marcel on Tuesday 24/Aug/2004, @15:49
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heres the torrent :)
http://62.212.84.226/torrents/Knoppix-3.5-DVD-remaster.iso.torrent
http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2410/Knoppix-3.5-DVD-remaster.iso.torrent
have fun
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Re: switch to DVD
by Tobias on Saturday 28/Aug/2004, @10:01
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Thx for the torrents :)
btw: I didn't want to start a discussion about wether or not a dvd recorder is common hardware and "affordable". It was just my experience from the people I know that by now 8 out of 10 of my friends own a recorder, the medium is by now more cost efficient than cds, ...
Of course there should still be cd-version, knoppix should be runnable on almost all PCs, that's one of its strength.
But if you look at it from this, the majority of today's in use PCs have at least a drive capable of reading DVDs.
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