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Sounds very nice but...
by SegFault II. on Sunday 29/Aug/2004, @22:45

This all sounds very nice, but why has this to be done in a distribution-specific way?
I mean, it's a good thing to improve integration in Debian.
For the moment.
But this creates other problems again.
Maybe there will come up some tool for system administration.
Nice thing.
But will I be able to use it on Gentoo?
On Mandrake?
SuSE? Red Hat? (you name it)
My opinion is the new kio-slaves and all this integration with other toolkits/applications is fantastic.
The integration in a specific distribution is not.
It's a work that need to be done x times (insert any number greater than 1000 for the x).
Maybe we should take a look at the Linux Registry project.
http://registry.sf.net
I think this is a better long-term solution.
If this is adopted widely we wouldn't need to care about distribution-specific stuff anymore.

If I got something utterly wrong and my posting is nonsense - please feel free to tell me so :-)

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Re: Sounds very nice but...
by Debian User on Monday 30/Aug/2004, @04:00

Hello,

Debian is the Universal OS, or at least is supposed to be. It
has no company behind it, but many companies base products on
Debian, and even more should.

The Linux Registry is not ready. Some people want to have what
works for Debian now. In the future, this may become portable,
but so far, it's only vaporware. I believe it can never really
become portable before the LSB doesn't cover it and lots of
code is changed.

Yours, Kay

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Re: Sounds very nice but...
by James Richard Tyrer on Monday 30/Aug/2004, @13:48

One small issue.

IIUC, the LSB specifies Sys V type startup scripts and a subset of RPM for binary packages.

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JRT

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Re: Sounds very nice but...
by superstoned on Monday 30/Aug/2004, @11:03

I'd say integrate all the features other distributions have in debian. actually there isnt much debian has not... debian isnt that strong with source code, but thats it, imho.
some work on auto-package and zero-install to integrate it in debian whould be appreciated i think.

debian tries to be a 'meta' distribution - and it succeeds, look at mephis, lindows, xandros and others. rpm sucks quite a bit, while you almost never have dependency problems with .deb's... I think its really a pitty gentoo was started instead of improving debian, although I also think it was a good thing, to shake up things a bit.

but anyway, I agree with you on the linux-registry point.

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Re: Sounds very nice but...
by SegFault II. on Monday 30/Aug/2004, @11:57

Well...
I think Gentoo is an even better "meta" distribution.
But thats my poor opinion, not based on any technical reasons.
Just how I feel - so please feel free to ignore it ;-)

You say deb hasn't problems with dependencies.
I don't think that has anything to do with the package-format itself.
Try apt4rpm or urpmi and you won't have dependency-problems with rpm neither.

Back to linux-registry:
Maybe I'll add an interface to this thingy in my apps.
It's a nice thing and it needs support to get widely spread.

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