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Re: KFirefox?
by Turd Ferguson on Saturday 11/Sep/2004, @14:29
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Yeah, I am not saying Konqueror should get slimmed down. I like its universal file viewer capability among any i/o slave, including the web. I mean, I think that it should have HTML capability, but I think that overall Konqueror makes for a poor web browser as opposed to Firefox and makes an excellent file browser as opposed to Nautilus, or heaven forbid, Windows Explorer.
But I think that Mozilla's extension system is the best around and it's foolishness not to support it.
KDE is full of duplicate applications and despite my constant complaining that a lot of these should get deprecated, like kedit, kpaint, and noatun (nothing against noatun, but I find the similarities with kaboodle and its uncapabilities compared to amarok reason for its removal) to name a few, what's bad about a new web browser for KDE? |
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Re: KFirefox?
by anon on Saturday 11/Sep/2004, @14:51
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> KDE is full of duplicate applications and despite my constant complaining that a lot of these should get deprecated, like kedit, kpaint, and noatun (nothing against noatun
- kpaint is already gone
- kedit will be gone whenever kate supports bidirectional-text (being localized is very important to kde)
- noatun+arts will be gone in kde 4.0, unless someone manages to port it to kdemm, which is unlikely since it's tied into arts very closely
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They're dropping KEdit? Why?
by QV on Saturday 11/Sep/2004, @20:52
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Personally, I think if they're going to drop an editor, they should get rid of KWrite.
KEdit has an advantage in that it's very light. Kate has an advantage in that it's very powerful. I use both regularly, depending on what I want to do. KWrite is neither as light as KEdit, nor as powerful as Kate. I never use it, ever--there's no reason to.
Now, dumping Noatun, that I can agree with. JuK runs circles around it, IMO (I recently switched to JuK from XMMS, and like it quite a bit). Unfortunately, JuK doesn't support streaming audio, but AmaroK does. AmaroK also runs circles around Noatun, tho I prefer JuK to AmaroK in every area except streaming.
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Re: They're dropping KEdit? Why?
by Morty on Sunday 12/Sep/2004, @06:53
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To gain anything they have to drop KEdit, since KWrite and Kate are the same editor. KWrite is only a light version of Kate, without all the advanced stuff.
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Re: They're dropping KEdit? Why?
by David House on Sunday 01/May/2005, @07:01
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Personally, the only one I use is KWrite, because a lot of files that I look at would be a lot harder to use without syntax highlighting. If I need anything more powerful than KWrite I tend to jump straight into KDevelop.
I guess removing KWrite would work though, as we have a really light editor (KEdit) and a slightly heavier editor (Kate), and then a full development IDE.
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Re: KFirefox?
by Kostumer on Sunday 12/Sep/2004, @22:09
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I for one don't want to see Noatun go for the very simple reason that Juk sound quality is not very good (I don't know why but the sound its garbled) as compared to Noatun which plays with very high fidelity. If someone has had the same problem and found a way to fix Juk let me know so I can fix it too..... otherwise I would hate to boot into Windows just to listen to MP3s
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Re: KFirefox?
by Larry Garfield on Sunday 12/Sep/2004, @23:02
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I had issues with Juk on certain files causing lots of static. My guess is it had to do with the bit rate or frequency or some other setting. I never did figure out what caused it, as it went away when I upgraded to KDE 3.3. :-) If you've not yet upgraded I suggest you do so, as there was probably a lot of cleanup internally for that sort of problem.
Noatun has always bugged me, as it takes a long time to load and then doesn't let me edit tags. Why bother with it? :-) (Or if it's supposed to, it malfunctions for me.)
Elsewhere in this thread someone mentioned that artsd is going away in KDE 3/4/4.0. Why is that? Has ALSA caught up to the point that artsd is redundant?
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Re: KFirefox?
by David Bishop on Tuesday 14/Sep/2004, @14:25
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Regarding the first point (why bother with noatun), I must say that I've been a long-time noatun advocate. I tried Juk for a week or so a little while ago, and loved the id3-editing portion. However, it fell down when it came to how I use my mp3-mplayer. I hate how it resets to whereever you starting playing in the playlist whenever you hit stop (rather than go to beginning of the the current song). In fact, I think that's the only thing that was wrong with it, and that alone was enough to drive me back to noatun :-) It's something that's very simple, but incredibally annoying if done wrong.
Secondly, arts and alsa are not on the same level. If KDE switched to alsa as it's multimedia layer, it would suddenly not be usable (for sound and video) on any *BSD, OSX, or Cygwin. Alsa does stand for Advanced *Linux* Sound Architecture, you know :-) The last I heard (and admittedly, it's been a while), kde-multimedia was looking seriously at gstreamer to use instead. There may be other systems, I forget. But basing it directly on alsa (or oss, or CoreAudio, etc) is simply not an option. Oh, and it definetly won't go away for 3.4, which by definition has to be compatible with all 3.x apps.
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