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Re: Just give me a break.
by Aaron J. Seigo on Wednesday 06/Oct/2004, @16:07

OOo is a current necessity given the state of other options. i do hope that in the long run it goes away, and having KOffice use the OOo file format natively puts it in a good position to take over eventually.

as for HAL, DBUS and other such things, stop obsessing about where things come from. as long the license is right (e.g. Free/Open Source), the only the question we need to ask is "Would using this make KDE better? Does it serve our goals and purposes?" for what else really matters? these are complex questions that cover everything from features, release cycles, APIs, interop, maintainability and much more. but "did a GNOME touch it?" is irrelevant.

as for "unfinished patchwork", well.. if that's your assessment of the GNOME's efforts, fair enough, but i fail to see how their efforts reflect upon our's, anymore than our's reflect upon their's. i'd suggest judging the KDE project's efforts by the KDE product, not some other product.

"Hell whenever some GNOME fart into the air we need to adopt it." you mistake cooperation for weakness and brand it undesirable. cooperation goes both ways (look at how many freedesktop.org specs are basically KDE ideas touched up and 'rebranded'), and it can have great rewards for all, especially our users.

now, mindless acceptance of any and every suggestion would be stupid. but fortunately the KDE developers are anything but mindless.

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Re: Just give me a break.
by Derek Kite on Wednesday 06/Oct/2004, @18:08

I totally agree. Using OOo brings to mind the expression 'don't look a gift horse in the mouth'. Without it large Linux deployments wouldn't happen. It is nice to see the active development in KOffice.

Regarding DBUS (and other technologies that Kde would adopt), the question is whether the developers are responsive to the needs and suggestions from the Kde folks. From what I understand, there is no problem.

Derek

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Re: Just give me a break.
by jadrian on Thursday 07/Oct/2004, @02:45

Hi,
Even though I understand your point, 'don't look a gift horse in the mouth' seems like a terrible choice as an expression to me. If it's important as a selling point right now, then it should be examined closely. If KDE integration is important this kind of things simple cannot happen: http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=23526

Drag and Drop of images from konqueror to some of the OpenOffice.org apps (e.g. OO Writer), create a link to the image instead of including it. This can be terrible, it affects KDE users directly. It screwed up lots of documents of my sister which were filled with pictures. I reported it almost one year ago. I'd expect at least, lots pressure from distros like SUSE towards the OO.org developers to fix this kind of nasty bugs.

My sister is now using KOffice for that kind of work.

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