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KPDF
by Martin on Wednesday 13/Oct/2004, @00:09
Biggest improvement (by reading the announcement,
haven't downloaded it yet) seems to be that
KPDF now works. Why isn't that mentioned?
Or did I get it wrong?
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Re: KPDF
by Anonymous on Wednesday 13/Oct/2004, @00:46
The announcement doesn't mention this, you read the changelog? As mentioned the changelog is to be considered as incomplete (lazy maintainers). There are also other big improvements (eg KNotes Kontact plugin).
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  • Lazy Maintainers?
    by Jason Keirstead on Wednesday 13/Oct/2004, @04:11
    Sorry, but this is way out of line. You try being a maintainer of a larger app and keeping track of 5-10 commits / day, all the while maintaining a job and spending time with the family. Oh, and you would probably also like to do some coding yourself, since that is probably why you joined the apps team in the first place...

    There is a big difference between a maintainer being excessively busy and being lazy. These people are incredibly generous with their free time considering the majority of them don't get paid a dime for it, and that they also must make personal sacrifices for the project. Calling them "lazy" is totally unacceptable.
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    • Re: Lazy Maintainers?
      by John Relaxed Freak on Wednesday 13/Oct/2004, @04:51
      I don't think he was being serious... relax...
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      • Re: Lazy Maintainers?
        by Eric Laffoon on Wednesday 13/Oct/2004, @13:42
        I don't think you should tell him to relax. I think you should do something. ;-)

        What have you done to help a project lately? He's right. A primary reason to release open source is the currency of community respect, just as monetary remuneration is for commercial projects. Calling commercial developers lazy is no big deal, as long as you keep buying their software. Calling free software developers lazy is analogous to collecting a refund. It is a debit of respect.

        All of this is no big deal except that with millions of users and hundreds of contributors it is utterly absurd for someone in the over 99% of people who don't contribute to call the less than 1% of people who are doing anything lazy. It's doubtful anyone in the less than 1% group would say that and it is worth making the point of personal cost to put such things in perspective.
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        • Re: Lazy Maintainers?
          by John Relaxed Freak on Wednesday 13/Oct/2004, @15:36
          I agree with all that. Just not so sure he actually called the developers lazy, seems just an harmless joke to me (of course I don't know for sure).
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    • Re: Lazy Maintainers?
      by John Relaxed Freak on Wednesday 13/Oct/2004, @04:56
      By the way, I just thought I'd add this :D
      ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.3.1/SuSE/README

      ----------------------------------------------------
      #
      # KDE 3.3.1 packages for SUSE distributions.
      #

      Sorry, we were to lazy to build packages yet.
      They will be here tomorrow, hopfully.
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      • Re: Lazy Maintainers?
        by ac on Wednesday 13/Oct/2004, @09:52
        Seems to have been updated. Kopete and Kontact have Novell GroupWise support!
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        • Re: Lazy Maintainers?
          by John Relaxed Freak on Wednesday 13/Oct/2004, @12:52
          Speaking of Kopete, beware!
          SuSE packagers compiled Kopete without Jabber support!
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          • Re: Lazy Maintainers?
            by AC on Wednesday 13/Oct/2004, @13:31
            Why would they do that?
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            • Re: Lazy Maintainers?
              by John Kopete Freak on Wednesday 13/Oct/2004, @13:59
              I don't know, mistake probably... see:
              http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88277
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