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Re: [OT] Beautyfing KDE
by Wizard580 on Wednesday 13/Oct/2004, @15:50
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Very nice patches... but QT patch a little strange way to do things... I'm not KDE/Qt developer, but think, that any problem can be fixed with standart methods.
Great work!!! :-)
Need this in 3.3.2 !!!!!!!!! |
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Re: [OT] Beautyfing KDE
by Max Howell on Wednesday 13/Oct/2004, @17:18
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There's something you can take to cure those excess exclamation marks you know. You needn't suffer forever!
Also, you can't solve everything at the KDE level, sorry. Additionally, just because he solved it at the Qt level, it does not mean he didn't use "standart methods".
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Re: [OT] Beautyfing KDE
by Eric Laffoon on Wednesday 13/Oct/2004, @18:33
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Hi Max!
(note only one exclamation mark)
That was certainly fun. But "standart methods" aren't where it's at as much as Eye candy. I thought I'd look to see if there were any questions or comments to respond to on Quanta, especially since it got in the headline... You know, four years of passionate work and sacrifice. I've been proud how well it's received. Frankly I still think Keramik is just fine and can't get excited over Plastik. But hey, it's all fluff, style without substance, though the visual feedback in this patch looks nice. Anyway at aKademy I was very pleased that both Quanta and Kommander were one after the other in the top 10 on kde-apps.org highest rated. Kommander slipped because we have to do a new release, but I was surprised to see that this patch is rated higher than Quanta. I don't feel bad about many of the fine applications being in between Quanta and Kommander... like Scribus, amaroK, KFormDesigner, KDevelop, Kile and Kontact, but I wonder what it says about KDE and what it says to KDE developers when the demand and appreciation of eye candy is so disproportionate to application software.
I have a theory. When someone uses an application there are lots of things it has to do and invariably there will be some aspect they don't like and for that they will vote it down. If someone doesn't like eye candy they just ignore it but if they like it the only thing it has to do is continue to look good. There isn't really anything to "find out" about it and get disappointed over.
If this site's measure of success was talkbacks then every story should be about what default theme we should use. As I write this there are 46 posts, 14 of which are _not_ about visuals leaving about 70% of the talkbacks here on visuals.
For years I thought all Windows users wanted was cute visuals, but the most stunning visuals are clearly on the Mac and it hasn't gotten them world domination. Maybe KDE is getting disenfranchised Windows users who wanted better visuals? What I have always liked about KDE is that it is a productive environment for me to get work done in. Maybe I should work less and stare at it more. ;-)
[staring...]
Hey! This application is in the way of my wallpaper! Who put that there!?
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Re: [OT] Beautyfing KDE
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday 14/Oct/2004, @07:13
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I think things are simpler than that, actually, Eric.
Visual fluff potentially touches everyone.
Quanta potentially touches Web developers.
And the group 'Web developers' is but a small fraction of the group 'everyone'.
In short, this patch's rating doesn't mean -anything- comparatively to Quanta. Ask any Web developer if they'd rather have eye candy or Quanta, and see what they answer. :)
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Re: [OT] Beautyfing KDE
by Apollo Creed on Thursday 14/Oct/2004, @08:00
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I think there's another part to the explanation as well. People who have the time to browse around kde-look and similar community sites, try out the latest stuff and even care enough to vote, are probably not the same people who use application software to get actual work done.
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Re: [OT] Beautyfing KDE
by Greg on Thursday 14/Oct/2004, @08:20
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More importantly, quanta only touches a portion of the web developer group. I've tried using it before, and while a nice app, it doesn't provide any features that I have seen that make me want to use it. It also lacks split screen editing, a critical feature in my book.
Greg
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Re: [OT] Beautyfing KDE
by Greg on Monday 18/Oct/2004, @09:36
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The last time I compiled it was last month, and it still really didn't seem to give me much over kate. I did like the project support, it felt a bit more natural than kate's project support. What is it that I'm missing? Quanta seems to be good at document markup, but that's all I see.
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Re: [OT] Beautyfing KDE
by superstoned on Monday 18/Oct/2004, @11:18
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well, for me the wysiwyg support is very nice... but indeed, for just editting pages, kate is very nice too. but if you want to work with php, quanta is very good. and the templates and wizards can get you going very fast.
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Re: [OT] Beautyfing KDE
by Greg on Monday 18/Oct/2004, @12:17
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I guess that's the difference for me. I do a lot of work in PHP, but it is very rare that I ever touch HTML in the course of my coding.
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It's really quite simple...
by Alex on Friday 15/Oct/2004, @20:20
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Of course, I would never take that patch over Quanta if it was one or the other, but this is a rating system, not all or nothing. Quanta is certainly far more important to KDE and the LinuxWorld than that eyecandy.
However, at least when I rate, I take into account what it is meant to do. For eyecandy, I think it deserves that score, there are few competing projects on kde-apps.org which offer that level of eyecandy. I rate it based on its category. Otherwise, I would be comparing apples and oranges.
In addition, the rating system is terribly flawed. It's either an application is "bad" or "good", there is no middleground. It should be a rating system from 1-10, that would provide more accurate representation. I rarely think something is actually bad on KDE-LOOK.org and so I vote for most applications as good. However, often I would like to vote great instead of good, such as in the case of Quanta.
I think this generally explains this.
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