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by gerd on Tuesday 02/Nov/2004, @07:55

I think that the Windows Software provided with Palms is still best for Kontact management. kontact is immature for professional use.

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Re: Kontact
by Daniel Molkentin on Tuesday 02/Nov/2004, @08:05

Kontact is _not_ doing syncing. That's what kitchensync and KPilot are for.
And maybe except for kitchensync I can definitely not agree. Sorry.

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Re: Kontact
by Daniel Arnold on Tuesday 02/Nov/2004, @09:46

You simply have absolutely NO PLAN what Kontact is! Kontact alone wont help you very much and is according to your poor definition for sure not professional and will never be. Kontact is a shell, which embeds different standalone KDE applications as a kind of plugins in one UI. Kontact is much more than just Palm-syncing. It is a full featured PIM-environment ready for professional use (saying: big chief, often called CEO, is able using it and will like it). It is the only PIM with the advantage that it is not monolitic as Evolution or Outlook. It can be reduced to the individual needed features or extended easily with new ones via Kpart and so there also exist a KDE-palm-syncing-application inside (and outside) Kontact.

By the way: Many thanks to the programmers of KMail. It is my favorite Mail application for years. (I didn't use the other PIM applications that much simply because they are far beyond my personal needs)

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Re: Kontact
by Craig Ambrose on Tuesday 02/Nov/2004, @15:32

Although it may look like no plan, I think that the modularity of Kontact gives it huge advantages over other such suites. For example if a given company wanted to add another PIM related program which they had coded as a kpart, then it could be loaded into kontact (as I understand it), in order to do some organisation specific task, such as tracking work hours or something.

I've been a big fan of the kde PIM suite for some time because it's modularity. We're now seeing a lot more integration, which is what everyone has been crying out for. I just hope that the integration is possible without harming the modular nature of these applications. I think there are two many huge software suites which are not suitable for certain groups of users because one part of them isn't right. Ideally, with KDE PIM, if I didn't like, say the address book, I should be able to code my own and use it seamlessly in place of KAddressBook (just an example btw). I'd love to know if this is currently the case. But even if it isn't entirelly seamless, Kontact and KDE PIM is much closer to this goal than anything else. I'm just not sure if I'm the only loony out there who things that this is important. :)

Anyway, congratulations to the Kontact/Kmail team for winning this well deserved award.

Craig

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Re: Kontact
by Ingo Klöcker on Tuesday 02/Nov/2004, @16:11

You could surely replace KAddressBook with another Address Book application. There are probably a few things which won't work anymore because KMail explicitely calls kaddressbook via dcop. But if needed a general address book dcop interface could be created so that alternatives to KAddressBook which implement this interface would be fully compatible with KMail. For the other components of Kontact there are similar constraints.

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Re: Kontact
by Jeaneen on Tuesday 14/Dec/2004, @10:28

Hi,
Is this you, Craig (Chuckie)? I've lost you can am wondering how/where/what you're doing these days. Get back to me if this is you. I just got a card from Mark Shintani and was feeling very nostalgic.
Jeaneen

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Re: Kontact
by David on Tuesday 02/Nov/2004, @11:25

Define professional use for me. There's still some thing that Kontact needs to improve (and a lot of those are top show, dotting is and crossing ts), but it's proving a very sold basis.

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Re: Kontact
by Andre on Tuesday 02/Nov/2004, @13:14

I think this applies to the "Palm Desktop", a great adress book from a usability perspective. See Screenshot...

palmdesktop.jpg
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Re: Kontact
by Daniel Arnold on Tuesday 02/Nov/2004, @15:33

Kontact is no adress book. Kontact provides much more (see my post above). The KAdressbook ist simply one of many plugins within Kontact. It is a PIM environement (Mail/Adressbook/News/...).

By the way the screenshot shows nothing (far to poor resolution). Ever used Kontact?

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I hate Palmdesktop
by Roland on Wednesday 03/Nov/2004, @00:40

My old Treo had a problem with the battery, it worked only in the cradle.

Because of that I wanted to print out the contact list, but that's impossible in Palmdesktop. It was extremely frustrating, there was just no easy way to get my telephone numbers out of the goddamn thing.

Since then I hate it. - It was the last application that I migrated to Linux (I now use KPilot, too ;-)

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