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  KDE 3.4 goes into Beta Phase: Welcome "Krokodile"
KDE Official News Posted by Stephan Kulow on Thursday 13/Jan/2005, @10:57
from the what-happened-to-kicker dept.
A lot of development has happened since KDE 3.4 Alpha, so we are now happy to publish KDE 3.4 Beta 1 code named Krokodile. For a list of already implemented new features skim over the KDE 3.4 Feature Plan. For sources and packages (only Slackware so far, more have been promised to be released in the next few days), please visit the KDE 3.4 Beta 1 Info Page and browse the KDE 3.4 Requirements List. The Konstruct build toolset has been updated for this release. KDE 3.4 Beta 2 is planned for mid February with a final release due for mid-March.

The KDE team asks everyone to try this version and give feedback through the bug tracking system. Please make sure to check out the reworked panel and the KDE service auto discovery features. Note that the kdepim, kdevelop and kdewebdev modules also compile on KDE 3.3 systems.



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YAY!
by me on Thursday 13/Jan/2005, @11:22
YAY!
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Schni, schna, schnappi...
by Martin on Thursday 13/Jan/2005, @11:22
LOL ...everyone living in Germany now certainly knows what inspired
that name ;-)
And I have an idea for a new default KDE startup sound (or rather:
song)!

The most exciting things for me:
1) Improved KPDF (This will make it the best free PDF reader available)
2) Passwordless KWallet (This stupid password thing was _really_ annoying)
3) Themeable KDM (Will this be in for KDE 3.4? Would be great)
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screenshots, please :)
by Saulo on Thursday 13/Jan/2005, @11:49
Hey guys, where the shots with comments showing us the new great additions?
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Screenshots anyone? :)
by Eleknader on Thursday 13/Jan/2005, @11:53
Yay, I'm the first to ask for screenshots :)

Eleknader
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Feature complete?
by Andreas Steffen on Thursday 13/Jan/2005, @12:18
Hmmm, looking at the feature plan, I couldn't help but notice that 70% of all features are still not in the green phase. Just go to the border between yellow and green items and look at where your scrollbar handle is. Is the plan out of date, are the remaining red features peanuts, or what is happening? By my comprehension, the beta phase of a piece of software begins when it is roughly feature-complete and needs a diverse installed base in order to uncover the numerous bugs that have invariably crept in. Yet "Krokodile" seems to be in mid-development.

Am I misreading something here, guys (and girls)?

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Regarding the "Schnappi"-thingie; while I am German (only 20 years old,too), I usually avoid charts music. I am currently listening to this... song... and it is helping me remember why.
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DBUS & IIIMF
by Jeff Pitman on Thursday 13/Jan/2005, @19:57
I noticed these were not on the 3.4 build requirements list. I hope that we don't drop the ball on either of these technologies. IIIMF being the most important; cuz, yes, we have DCOP. The most important piece of DBUS are the hooks in HAL, hotplug, etc. wrt to USB pluggable devices.

Anyone in the know for Qt getting IIIMF support? There's been a transition period where I've upgraded to the latest and greatest, but now I no longer can input in Chinese in KDE apps. Pretty disappointing; hope we see some improvements here.

I'm extremely happy with what KDE has brought to my desktop. Just hope for additional polish around USB (kdebluetooth does really well here; good model) and IME.
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Error in the Info-page.
by Janne on Friday 14/Jan/2005, @00:21
The 3.4 info-page (http://www.kde.org/info/3.4beta1.php) still mentions Klassroom, and not Krokodile:

"Binary packages

Some Linux/UNIX OS vendors have kindly provided binary packages of _Klassroom_ for some versions of their distribution...."
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Fedora Packages?
by Anonymous on Friday 14/Jan/2005, @03:55
Fedora Packages anyone? Could not find anything on http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/
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LiveCD
by Alex on Friday 14/Jan/2005, @06:57
I can't wait until a OneBase LiveCD is released with this :)
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Waht i laways hated with KDE
by Andre on Friday 14/Jan/2005, @07:02
- no round border selection of desktop icons as with gnome

- ugly underline in Konqueror

- Konqueror stability

- Kontrol Center mess, no good theme engine, unsystematic settings and naming.

I like KDE very much but KDE has to be polished. I currently use KDE 3.1 Usually it's fixed after an upgrade, let's see what will happen when I will switch to 3.4
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what should get better in KDE
by anonymous on Friday 14/Jan/2005, @08:42
Desktop Icons: should be placed at that position after logout-login even if I enable "align to grid" (I think it's Kicker's fault)
Desktop handling: if I click into the background image, no icon should be selected. It's now selected with a "ghosted" frame. Pls look at Gnome if you don't know what I mean. All in all, the Desktop Icon feeling in Gnome is a bit better.

Konqueror: if I switch tabs, then Konqueror repaints the symbol toolbars (isn't it possible to do that like it is in Opera? Opera is also based on QT.

Kmail: smiley-_pictures_ instead of smileys (like in Thunderbird or Opera-Mail or a phpBB or ...)

Ok, this should be only some inspirations for the next version ;-)
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Stupid problem
by Richard Van Den Boom on Friday 14/Jan/2005, @09:03
Since I upgraded to KDE 3.4 Alpha 1, and now with the beta, my trashcan on the desktop has been changed to a file (which I have removed) and I cannot find a way to get a trashcan again on the desktop. Of course, I can access it using the trash:/ ioslave but it is not as user friendly.
Anyone knows how to recreate a trash on the desktop whose icon changes when I delete a file and which I can empty with a right click.
I know, that's stupid, but since I know the way to handle the trash has changed to allow multiple files of the same name to be deleted without the "file already exist" message, I wonder if there is a way out..

Richard
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Looks great!!
by brockers on Friday 14/Jan/2005, @09:27
Question: Why were the rounded corners and updated rubber band NOT included in this release? I could care less about them but with the number of people who mention them (and the popularity of http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=16962) they really should be part of 3.4.

Bobby
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kdelibs won't compile (using konstruct) - libkdnss
by wvl on Friday 14/Jan/2005, @11:32
On a G4 Powerbook:

In file included from libkdnssd_la.all_cpp.cpp:2:
remoteservice.cpp: In function `void DNSSD::resolve_callback(_DNSServiceRef_t*, DNSServiceFlags, uint32_t, DNSServiceErrorType, const char*, const char*, uint16_t, uint16_t, const char*, void*)':
remoteservice.cpp:144: error: `TXTRecordGetItemAtIndex' undeclared (first use this function)
remoteservice.cpp:144: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.)
In file included from libkdnssd_la.all_cpp.cpp:5:
publicservice.cpp: In member function `void DNSSD::PublicService::publishAsync()':
publicservice.cpp:127: error: `TXTRecordRef' undeclared (first use this function)publicservice.cpp:127: error: expected `;' before "txt"
publicservice.cpp:128: error: `txt' undeclared (first use this function)
publicservice.cpp:128: error: `TXTRecordCreate' undeclared (first use this function)
publicservice.cpp:132: error: `TXTRecordSetValue' undeclared (first use this function)
publicservice.cpp:133: error: `TXTRecordDeallocate' undeclared (first use this function)
publicservice.cpp:140: error: `TXTRecordGetLength' undeclared (first use this function)
publicservice.cpp:140: error: `TXTRecordGetBytesPtr' undeclared (first use this function)
make[5]: *** [libkdnssd_la.all_cpp.lo] Error 1
make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/wvl/konstruct/kde/kdelibs/work/kdelibs-3.3.91/dnssd'
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kpdf - wow
by ralph on Friday 14/Jan/2005, @12:12
I just tried out the new kpdf and all I can say is wow.
What an amazing improvement, really the best pdf viewer I ever used.
Just wanted to share my excitement and thank all the kde devs and especially the kpdf devs.
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:S
by quaff on Friday 14/Jan/2005, @21:28
sweeeet finally got it working hahaha :D

i love the new "Trash" kicker app... i wonder why they took out the devices kicker app tho.. that was pretty handy :/ anyone know where i can get it again?
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Slackware is Best suited for KDE :)
by Fast_Rizwaan on Saturday 15/Jan/2005, @01:31
Slacware is better for compiling programs, and I always find packages for Slackware quickly than any other distro.

KDE was the reason for which I switched to Slackware. And Slackware is just amazing.

Thanks for the Slackware packages.
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SUSE rpms
by gerry on Saturday 15/Jan/2005, @15:25
I've loaded arts, kdelibs, kdebase - they look great - the kdepim stuff seems to show missing dependencies. Do these go when you load them all? Anyone know?
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Problem
by Matt on Saturday 15/Jan/2005, @19:20
This is odd but using the slackware .tgz packages I get this message when trying to send with kmail:

"Authorization failed, Authentication support is not compiled into kio_smtp. authentication not supported"

So whoever packaged the slackware packages really should fix this. Or I'll just compile it myself. Definitely not like its the first time I've compiled KDE from source.
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SUSE rpms
by gerry on Sunday 16/Jan/2005, @01:00
I've loaded arts, kdelibs, kdebase - they look great - the kdepim stuff seems to show missing dependencies. Do these go when you load them all? Anyone know?
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finding missing libraries
by gerry on Sunday 16/Jan/2005, @06:08
the new SUSE RPM for kdepim is looking for these:

libkalarmd.so.0
libkmime.so.2

however currently, my opt/kde3/lib seems to contain all these

libkalarmd.la libkalarmd.so libkalarmd.so.0 libkalarmd.so.0.0.0

but not libkmime.so.2

couldn't find it on google either

any thoughts gratefully received
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Sweeeeeeeeet
by Adrian on Tuesday 18/Jan/2005, @08:15
The new document relations toolbar rocks111!!oneoneone!!11
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