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Re: Evolution is better for enterprices...
by ac on Sunday 30/Jan/2005, @09:01

Your comment shows that you haven't understood at all what Kolab and Kontact are about. And if Evolution is really that cool, it should be easy to provide support for the Kolab server beside of the Exchange suppport.

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Re: Evolution is better for enterprices...
by U on Sunday 30/Jan/2005, @21:08

I don't know, they are already to busy with the Novell Groupware.

And I know what Kolab is and what is pretending to do, but honestly, I dont think it will be successful, why? simple, it is QT based, that mean, if you want to implement, lets say, a pluging for it in your own enterprice you have to pay to Troll Tech for the developers tools, and that's at least $1,500, and no, not every enterprices like to opensource they technique, and even so, according to QT licence you must pay if you are getting benefits of QT in your enterprice, that's why I think it won't be adapted, not for enterprices and surely not by countries.

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Re: Evolution is better for enterprices...
by Anonymous on Sunday 30/Jan/2005, @23:35

First, it's written "Qt". Then, assuming you talk about the client side who forces you to write your plugin with Qt?

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Re: Evolution is better for enterprices...
by U on Monday 31/Jan/2005, @05:17

That's why is not a viable solution, if I have to use a third party tool for writing plugins for it, I don't see the point of using it at all, if I use the Qt tool kit, then it is at least $1,500, those are two big showstoppers for Kolab.

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Re: Evolution is better for enterprices...
by Kevin Krammer on Monday 31/Jan/2005, @05:58

I guess you are mixing Kolab and Kontact here. Kontact is Qt based, but as far as I know there is no Qt requriement when developing a Kolab client.

> not every enterprices like to opensource they technique

They don't have to distribute their code as long as they use is purely internally

> and even so, according to QT licence you must pay if you are getting benefits of QT in your enterprice

No, you are mixing that with the Qt/non-commerical licence for Windows.
Qt/Free as available on Unix/Linux and OS X is at least licenced under GPL and GPL does not allow such a restriction.

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Re: Evolution is better for enterprices...
by U on Monday 31/Jan/2005, @09:53

>> No, you are mixing that with the Qt/non-commerical licence for Windows.

Exactly, and since 90% of the world pc users use Windows, they are atached to this license, that's the big problem.

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Re: Evolution is better for enterprices...
by Kevin Krammer on Monday 31/Jan/2005, @10:03

I fail to see the problem.

Kolab runs on Unix/Linux systems, the communication with the server does not require Qt, so there is no need to use Qt on Windows if you want to access the Kolab server.

Very likely the most used Kolab client under Windows is currently Outlook with one of the connector plugins.

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Re: Evolution is better for enterprices...
by U on Monday 31/Jan/2005, @10:16

>>> Very likely the most used Kolab client under Windows is currently Outlook with one of the connector plugins.

That's the answer I needed, thank you.

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Re: Evolution is better for enterprices...
by blacksheep on Monday 31/Jan/2005, @12:55

> Very likely the most used Kolab client under
> Windows is currently Outlook with one of the
> connector plugins.

You've just reached his point. :D

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Re: Evolution is better for enterprices...
by Kevin Krammer on Monday 31/Jan/2005, @13:57

How so?

His point is that Kolab can't be successful because he thought it would put a Qt dependency on its usage, which it does not as I explain and what he acknowledge.

So this means we have reached the point where we both agree that Kolab is going to be successful because it can be used by a number of different clients on different systems, even allowing the use of already deployed clients and just changing the PIM server.

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Re: Evolution is better for enterprices...
by Carlo on Tuesday 01/Feb/2005, @07:59

if you want to implement, lets say, a pluging for it in your own enterprice you have to pay to Troll Tech for the developers tools, and that's at least $1,500

They won't have to pay. If you use the plugin only in your company, you don't have to realease the code. Read the GPL.

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